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What I have learned from my suicidal patients

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Re: What I have learned from my suicidal patients

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Post by 0db532a0 »

sdegutis wrote: post #180
0db532a0 wrote: post #178

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You're right to an extent. I absolutely believe in the utility of humour and satire as ways of illustrating certain ideas and forcing people to think. People on HN especially are much too prudish. These forms can be a lot more effective than a long piece of text. What I mean, though, is that there's only so much information that a piece of humour or a comic strip can convey. Also, you have to consider the crowd that…

Four other sources of truth I suggest you check out if you really like truth: http://www.newadvent.com/fathers/index.html http://www.newadvent.com/summa/ http://www.newadvent.com/cathen/index.html http://www.newadvent.com/bible/gen001.htm

Have a look into Nietzsche's master-slave morality distinction, and how Christianity falls into it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality. This page is a very short read.

Re: What I have learned from my suicidal patients

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Post by meiraleal »

sysbin wrote: post #177
trianglem wrote: post #165

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Fate is not a “real” thing. What are you talking about exactly when you say fate?

Fate is a "real" thing. Predestination is another word for it. Everything is cause & effect and you cannot change the path you're on.

"Fate" might be a real thing. But while a bunch of white rich guys are complaining about fate in the US, millions of Africans and Latinos are living happily without 1/100 of their affluence.

Re: What I have learned from my suicidal patients

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Post by sdegutis »

0db532a0 wrote: post #181
sdegutis wrote: post #180

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Four other sources of truth I suggest you check out if you really like truth: http://www.newadvent.com/fathers/index.html http://www.newadvent.com/summa/ http://www.newadvent.com/cathen/index.html http://www.newadvent.com/bible/gen001.htm

Have a look into Nietzsche's master-slave morality distinction, and how Christianity falls into it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality . This page is a very short read.

Jesus rose from the dead, that's a lot more reason to believe what he said than in Nietzsche's powerless words.

Re: What I have learned from my suicidal patients

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Post by 0db532a0 »

sdegutis wrote: post #183
0db532a0 wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have a look into Nietzsche's master-slave morality distinction, and how Christianity falls into it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master%E2%80%93slave_morality . This page is a very short read.

Jesus rose from the dead, that's a lot more reason to believe what he said than in Nietzsche's powerless words.

I think I'm going to turn the other cheek on this discussion.

Re: What I have learned from my suicidal patients

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Post by nickthemagicman »

RobertRoberts wrote: post #141
nickthemagicman wrote: post #136

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What do you mean by 'real hope'? Just curious.

I hesitate to give a specific answer here, because I think many people will find different things are "hope" for them. And if I give what I found it will come off as unhelpful. When I was young I nearly succeeding is ending my life (early teens) and at that moment I knew I didn't truly want to die, but I so desperately needed the pain to end. So going down wasn't an answer, I had to keep going up no matter what and I…

This is such a good comment and really answered it better than I expected. Sorry it took me so long to respond. Hopefully this comment helped others also.
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