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Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The linked article doesn't mention noise as the subject of the article - the word appears once on the page. Are you in the right place?

I want to ask you the same question. I wonder if it's a bug? The link I see at the top goes here: https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20191115-office-noise-a...

I double-checked myself every time I came back. And now, this is on the "Office noise" article. I don't have screenshots, so I have no idea what happened.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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There are two mutually exclusive groups of people: "Concentrators(1)" and "Communicators(2)". Concentrators must have conditions that allow one to form and hold complex ideas, and act upon them. This is almost always some degree of a quiet environment, without visual or auditory distractions. the opposite of the ideal conditions of Communicators. Communicators must interact with others to do their job. (1) Typical of…

Counterpoint: John von Neumann, arguably one of the greatest mathematicians of all time, claimed to do some of his best work in front of the TV. In my personal experience, I know plenty of engineers who don't mind noise. I think it's a personal thing more than anything and it's hard to generalize.

Using JVN who was one of the most distant outliers of human cognitive performance ever seen as an example is not helpful.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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A close cousin of misophonia is hyperacusis, an "abnormal intolerance, a heightened sense of volume and physical discomfort from ordinary, everyday sounds, which other people can tolerate well."

https://www.dineenwestcottmoore.com.au/services/hyperacusis-...

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I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

I am finding No. 1 and No. 3 to be absolutely true in my new job (open office). Loved my Bose QC headphones when I was using them occasionally at a coffeshop or on short flights, but for 6-8 hours? I'm finding that I'm leaving work with a headache now. It's making me consider the Airpods Pro since they're not vice-like but do include noise-canceling.

Have you tried the in-ears (the qc20s)? I use those for long periods of time and don't really get any issues. I moreso get fatigued from whatever I'm listening to, so I have to change it up a bit.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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post #135

I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

Have you tried in-ear variants like the bose qc20? I have no problems with them for long periods of time.

Also, as other users have pointed out, noise-canceling just counteracts constant noise like machine hums, and the like. It won't do anything about human speech because it 1.v aries constantly and 2. takes place across a large spectrum of sound. Noise-canceling headphones can adapt but it's always going to lag behind speech or other non-constant sounds like ringtones.

The only recourse there is to use noise-canceling + blast music/pink noise/rain sounds, whatever.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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I’ve found that my ability to tune out office noise is much lower after nights of poor sleep. So I think it takes active work to ignore it, when you notice it, and stay on task. The metaphor I’d use is it’s the act of shoving that information out of the way.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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post #135

I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

I'm wondering if you're dealing with hyperarousal (nothing to do with sexual arousal), especially given the reactions to the pipeline or Jira request. Perhaps a path for your research.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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People put with noise far more than they have to. Here are a few of my experiences: - moved into an office where a very noisy dot-matrix printer printed out every opening and closing of a door in the building. Nobody ever looked at the printouts. I unplugged it and put it in a dumpster. Nobody ever complained. - working for an oil company, my boss was sitting next to a big HP plotter that was horribly noisy - he wore…

I'm curious about this door access printer. Wonder if it was some attempt at building access logs, or if it was the product of some engineers having a slow day.

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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post #135

I currently work for a startup and all three of us are hotdesking. We're constantly moved to new spaces in the hotdesking space because a new company is leaving/moving in. I've sat beside recruiters, property managers and salespeople. There's no "quiet" room. The meeting rooms cost a few hundred and need to be pre-booked. My home environment isn't a quiet refuge either. Beside a busy street, more flatmates than their…

> I'm considering quitting my job and running away

If there were an alternative, we'd all run with you. There isn't, though. Something to think about when they say there's supposedly a "talent shortage" and they're having trouble "recruiting top performers".

Re: Office noise bothers some people more than others

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My biggest hurdle—aside from undocumented code—at my new company, is fucking mouth noises from coworkers and the sound of crumpling snack bags in an open office. It's to the extent where I have to leave the area and regain composure before mentioning it. If I can't find a way to manage, I'll leave, but I'm not in the financial position to have that luxury yet. What will probably happen, is I'll work up to a slow comp…

I've noticed this particular kind of issue is helped significantly by white noise generators. The last office I worked in (i'm now remote) had a white noise generator built in that cancelled out a lot of those sounds like chip bags and chewing that are super jarring in a vacuum. I didn't even realize it was there until the day it broke down for a few hours and we ended up with a sudden eerie silence. Suddenly I was b…

There are also apps like Noisli which are personal white noise machines. I find it works well when I need "quiet" time.
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