CloudFlare is ruining the internet for me (2016)

Post by tekknik » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 1:05 PM UTC

extempore wrote: post #170

ynx wrote: post #167

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IMO: If the country is the source of an outsized number of bad actors then – probabilistically and at scale – "you" are responsible, yes. I'm not trying to be blame-y here in that I mean the probabilistic "you" and not you personally. Whether you personally deserve the consequences of that responsibility is more ideological than pragmatic - you probably do not deserve it, but how do others find out which you are? Tha…

It’s interesting how smoothly this logic can move between “your country”, “your religion”, “your ethnicity”, “your ideology”. I am not making a case for or against any of these. But if pragmatic arguments for group punishment hold currency when there is known collateral damage, arguments from principle lose currency in equal measure.

aren’t all laws a form of group punishment? the area i live in now charges for plastic bags due to littering. i’ve never littered in my life yet i’m still subject to the same punishment. the same holds true for just about every law, except capital crimes.

Post by tekknik » Mon, Oct 07, 2019, 1:28 PM UTC

boudin wrote: post #121

saagarjha wrote: post #94

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They don’t make you solve captchas if they have enough information about you to think you’re unlikely to be abusive.

If you're on an ip that is part of a pool they consider unsafe, it's every time. When I use one of my vpns to browse, i end up skipping all websites using cloudfare. This is a lot and it makes you realise how dangerous this situation is. Way too much traffic goes through cloudflare.

if they consider the subnet you’re on unsafe have you taken the issue up with your VPN provider? if they don’t have a negative stance towards abuse and you continue to use them then you’re actually enabling this behavior. i also wouldn’t be surprised if they considered all vpns unsafe blocks. TOR is usually blocked entirely for abuse reasons.

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