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Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by NPC32419419 »

dantle wrote: post #26
jonknee wrote: post #14

Microsoft is using Android! Lauren Goode got a great quote from Satya on this topic: > When I asked Satya Nadella whether Microsoft ever thought about reviving a true Windows mobile OS, he told me: "The operating system is no longer the most important layer for us...What is most important for us is the app model and the experience." https://twitter.com/LaurenGoode/status/1179421631506210822 Update: my apologies, this…

The parent story isn't about some version of Android. Windows 10 X is a real version of Windows, based on the NT Kernel.

Latest incarnations of Windows Mobile/Phone were based on NT kernel too.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by zx2c4 »

asenna wrote: post #72

For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

> have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? P

Remember the Thinkpad W701ds? With its retractable second screen, this was a thing of beauty:

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_a...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/msJwcKy4PQQ/maxresdefault.jpg

https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images1000x1000/1276679060...

https://live.staticflickr.com/1707/24571574422_aeeb09181f_b....

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by billziss »

I would much prefer it if manufacturers created a multi-screen setup with screens next to each other. I can imagine some form of folding or attachment mechanism that converts a single screen laptop to dual or triple screen. Since going "laptop only" many years ago the thing I miss the most is the multi-monitor setup that I used to have and would love it if I was eventually able to recreate this with my laptop.

The idea of a second screen above the keyboard does not appeal to me. I have a Macbook Pro with a touch bar and in general I dislike it (even though I have written a custom dock for it, which allows me to reclaim some main screen real estate from the macOS Dock). I understand that this new MSFT screen is bigger and potentially more useful, but the problem of having to look down on the second screen above the keyboard would still be there.

(I am aware of macOS Sidecar.)

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by billziss »

zx2c4 wrote: post #182
asenna wrote: post #72

For people saying dual screen is a gimmick, have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? Power users have always wanted more screen real estate! I've been eyeing the Asus Zenbook Pro Duo[1] ever since they've been announced (currently using a Macbook Pro 2015). I usually carry around an Asus portable second screen for my laptop in my backpack and th…

> have you not wanted to replicate multi-screen setup on your laptop (while traveling or when not on your desktop)? P Remember the Thinkpad W701ds? With its retractable second screen, this was a thing of beauty: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/c_fill,f_a... https://i.ytimg.com/vi/msJwcKy4PQQ/maxresdefault.jpg https://static.bhphoto.com/images/images1000x1000/1276679060... https://live.staticflickr.c…

Just wrote something similar. I agree.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by datagram »

billziss wrote: post #183

I would much prefer it if manufacturers created a multi-screen setup with screens next to each other. I can imagine some form of folding or attachment mechanism that converts a single screen laptop to dual or triple screen. Since going "laptop only" many years ago the thing I miss the most is the multi-monitor setup that I used to have and would love it if I was eventually able to recreate this with my laptop. The id…

> I can imagine some form of folding of attachment mechanism that converts a single screen laptop to dual or triple screen.

Razer is working on exactly this: https://www.razer.com/project-valerie

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by milankragujevic »

scarface74 wrote: post #125
ascii_only wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is that sarcasm, because I had cheap Symbian 40 phone with Opera mobile way before iPhone was announced. Browser that i used everywhere. And this Symbian phones were majority of the market. Also Windows mobile phones that only geeks were using at the time also had browser and also way before iPhone.

The Opera browser at the time for mobile weren’t full browsers. They rendered on a server and had limitations.

No, that was Opera Mini J2ME. Symbian's Opera mobile was based on Presto and rendered and executed JS on the device. It could optionally compress images and JS with Opera Turbo.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by naikrovek »

ndespres wrote: post #43
evv wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The reporting around this new device is certainly confusing.. "This product brings together the absolute best of Microsoft, and we're partnering with Google to bring the absolute best of Android in one product," Microsoft Product Chief Panos Panay said. "This is industry pushing technology." From https://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-unveils-999-surface-pro-... Edit: I'm realizing there are multiple new devices. The Su…

These guys just can not figure out a branding/marketing scheme that won't require overexplaining each time to figure out, and confusion by the consumer. What is a "Surface" if it's really 2 different things, with very similar names, that do completely different things and run incompatible operating systems?

"Surface" is a product line... How is that hard to understand?

Like Lenovo Thinkpad, Jeep Wrangler, Samsung Galaxy, or whatever else you want to cite as an example.

Re: Microsoft introduces Windows 10 X for dual-screen devices

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

augustl wrote: post #141
dmix wrote: post #107

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I'm happy to see that Asus managed to find a way to keep the Escape key even while taking up way more space than Touchbar. Apple has no excuse. Still I'd personally rather use efficient tiling software + tabbing between spaces than have to look down at distractions. I'm amazed no major OS developer has tried to deliver this as an advanced mode. It's the type of thing that would benefit from direct OS integration. Mos…

I've never been more happy with a desktop environment than when I used i3. The sloppy window management in macOS combined with the scarce selection of laptops (of which none are really good in my opinion) has led me to try win10 as my development environment. i3-like on Windows would have been great!

I just need Plasma-like workspaces (apps in a layout that you can switch to for different work-focuses) and "always on top" (which IIRC used to be in MS Windows) ... any suggestions?
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