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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by cycloptic »

t-writescode wrote: post #138
craftyguy wrote: post #123

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> which is a very common setting among those who care about privacy Sorry, but if you use microsoft products you either do not actually care about privacy, or do not understand how microsoft is not taking your privacy seriously.

Or you could use a pihole to block their telemetry collection practices. Or you could prefer to play games and recognize there’s only one real option for playing the new ones Or you could hate them, but you work at a Windows shop. Please don’t assume everyone forced to use Windows enjoy Microsoft’s practices. Do you eat Nestle food? Are you aware of the evils of that company? Are you in support of those evils, despit…

I'm not trying to diminish your situation, but it seems a bit hyperbolic to suggest that anyone is forced to use Windows. If you really are being physically forced to do so against your will, that seems like even more reason to avoid them as much as possible.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by sandworm101 »

tim58 wrote: post #59
sandworm101 wrote: post #25

Another great day for linux.

I'm sad Windows still has a (basic) monopoly on computer gaming.

Who told you that? Look at all the games on steam proton. All the best indi games run fine on linux. I was playing eve online last night and subnautica a few days ago. Ksp, factorio, minecraft ... there are tons of great games on linux.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by stOneskull »

lone_haxx0r wrote: post #154

Meanwhile, the Linux world is wasting its biggest opportunity to take over the desktop space. IMO, Unintuitive interfaces (e.g. Gnome shell), forced package management (as opposed to decentralized distribution of apps) and lack of care for graphic design are the biggest things keeping the masses away from the Linux desktop, because in other areas (speed, robustness, privacy, control) it just blows Windows out of the…

I wonder what it would be like if gnome and kde merged

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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Post by toastal »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #145
JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #46

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To the end user, what makes this model preferable to buying the operating system software? For some businesses higher up the stack, it makes sense-- e.g., people spend $X per month on the Adobe Suite, and people tend to enjoy that.

> people spend $X per month on the Adobe Suite, and people tend to enjoy that. I work in the graphic design industry, and I've got news for you... people do not enjoy Adobe's move to subscription pricing, and on the contrary still complain about it. Anecdotal evidence, I suppose, but seriously... I haven't met a single person who prefers Creative Cloud to just buying the suites.

With alternative softwares like Figma, Sketch and Affinity, I've been seeing a lot of designers migrate away. Sadly and tangential to other discussions, Figma is the only one that will run cross-platform being WASM-based.

I personally had been holding on to Windows/Mac through college til this subscription model. Since I really only do photo work now, darktable and RawTherapee are great FOSS alternatives. Krita and GIMP get way more flack than they deserve.

Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows

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GlenTheMachine wrote: post #100

...and from what I can tell, their online account security is craptastic. Here’s a true story that happened to my family. My son is the only person in the house who uses Windows. For his game machine. He set up a Microsoft online account. It got hacked - someone set up a fake family and managed to get my son’s account listed under it as a child. As a consequence, he couldn’t install any new software. I’m not sure wha…

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Post by fortran77 »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #171
fortran77 wrote: post #137

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I run Windows 10. I'm running it now. It works well, and I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my face by worrying about Satya Nadella seeing my internet searches. I'm not that important that I have to worry about these things. I tend to run it on the "Happy Path" only make a few changes to keep some notifications from bothering me. And I don't buy machines from vendors that try to "add value" by putting crapware…

> I don't want to cut my nose off to spite my face I have trouble understanding this perspective since it's hard to see what critical functionality Windows provides, that you can't get with Mac OS or Linux. If they wouldn't be materially different experiences, the metaphor doesn't hold water.

I can't run NVidia on Macs (Ok, some Mac true believer will tell me I can get an PCI-X external cage and run it over thunderbolt with crazy drivers) and I can't run Adobe Premiere, After Effects, Audition, etc, on a Linux machine.

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Post by wmp56 »

runn1ng wrote: post #85

Buy pirated Windows LTSC on ebay (or actual, if you have 260 usd to spare), it solves most of Windows 10 problems

Why do you even need Windows in that case? Internet isn't any different when seen from Ubuntu and if you really have to use Windows, because AutoCAD and Photoshop, then you're paid enough to not worry about 260 usd.

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Post by jamie_ca »

paulcole wrote: post #176
weka wrote: post #158

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And I refuse to kowtow to a company who thinks its okay to purchase a stand for $1,000 for another piece of hardware you've additionally paid for.

What company are you talking about?

Apple, with the new Mac Pro. Mac starting at $6k, Screen starting at $5k, but the monitor itself is only good on a (I hope) VESA mount, if you want an ordinary desk stand it's an extra $1k.

https://www.cnet.com/news/1000-apple-mac-pro-display-stand-s...

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Post by manigandham »

allset_ wrote: post #143
manigandham wrote: post #116

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What else is any average user going to switch to exactly?

Linux? Basically everything an average user does is in the browser.

Except it isnt. Games, media, and all kinds of connected devices and hardware today makes Linux a non-starter.

There have been startups before trying to do this, a famous one being Lindows. Never got anywhere.

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Post by Enginerrrd »

dhruvkar wrote: post #169
lone_haxx0r wrote: post #154

Meanwhile, the Linux world is wasting its biggest opportunity to take over the desktop space. IMO, Unintuitive interfaces (e.g. Gnome shell), forced package management (as opposed to decentralized distribution of apps) and lack of care for graphic design are the biggest things keeping the masses away from the Linux desktop, because in other areas (speed, robustness, privacy, control) it just blows Windows out of the…

Pop_os! has done a lot for user experience (install and use), trending closer to macOS. I do see efforts being made towards capturing desktop users.

What Linux really needs is better support from third parties. If I could get a passable version of AutoCAD civil 3D on Linux, I'd never go back to windows. I'd be thrilled to pay for it. Of course... Microsoft owns AutoCAD. Coincidence???
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