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Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by tomp »

hw wrote: post #45

Is it just me or is their intro video disturbing? A world where your significant other is next to you but deep in their own virtual world? Hasn't Facebook done enough to disconnect people from the real world? Given the lengths Facebook has gone through to keep users engaged and addicted to their platform, what's stopping them from doing the same with Horizon?

A good relationship is one where you can be close to each other, each doing their own thing, and feel "close" and connected. From that perspective, playing a game (possibly in a virtual world) isn't really that different from reading a book.

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by tomp »

biztos wrote: post #172
DJHenk wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And the disturbing part is that I am not even sure why - on its face value it seems great And that is exactly the reason why it is not the right direction. Think about it. Why would one choose a virtual world over the new one? Because apparently the real world is not good enough. On the surface the virtual looks better, but if you engage in it, I think you will probably find out that it is as boring and hard as the…

On the A16Z podcast, Marc Andreessen (IIRC) said something like "VR is not for Silicon Valley where you wake up every day thinking of all the awesome things you can do. VR is for all the people whose everyday life is terrible." When you think about it in those terms it gets seriously dystopian. You put your AR goggles on for your 10-hour shift at the Nike factory, then you pop a protein pill and put your VR goggles o…

How is that different from any other form of entertainment (books, TV shows & movies, spectator sports)?

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by agota »

_f9cu wrote: post #102

Here is my marketing content. "I am already in a world where I feel great. I have a rule. Never touch another man's creation. New things that interests me are already within me, why would I go out and learn something new to create something which I already have in my brain ? Ever expanding universe - ? Why would I build an universe in someone else's land while I can trust myself and build in my mind? Because its not…

Your post reminded me of lucid dreaming.

We already have an in-built VR capability, it just takes a lot of effort to learn how to access it and use it, but once you do it's pretty crazy stuff.

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by buboard »

meheleventyone wrote: post #122
buboard wrote: post #3

Sansar , High fidelity , vrchat ... they all struggle to get traction (and mostly fail) - why does facebook think they can do better

One thing that sprang to mind is that they own the hardware too and can integrate Horizons tightly with the OS.

the question is more whether they can sell oculus to facebook users rather than facebook to oculus users.

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by throwaway1777 »

biztos wrote: post #172
DJHenk wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And the disturbing part is that I am not even sure why - on its face value it seems great And that is exactly the reason why it is not the right direction. Think about it. Why would one choose a virtual world over the new one? Because apparently the real world is not good enough. On the surface the virtual looks better, but if you engage in it, I think you will probably find out that it is as boring and hard as the…

On the A16Z podcast, Marc Andreessen (IIRC) said something like "VR is not for Silicon Valley where you wake up every day thinking of all the awesome things you can do. VR is for all the people whose everyday life is terrible." When you think about it in those terms it gets seriously dystopian. You put your AR goggles on for your 10-hour shift at the Nike factory, then you pop a protein pill and put your VR goggles o…

Seems the factory workers are in a bad spot either way, at least the vr version is presumably more “enjoyable”.

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by melon_madness »

ptah wrote: post #156
honzzz wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it is just me getting old but when I was watching that part when she was talking about "getting out there, trying new things, making your mark", something really deep in me was screaming NOOOO!, this is not right :-/ I was always into tech but this video makes me want to throw all my devices away, move to some old house in abandoned Spanish village and grow my own tomatoes. And the disturbing part is that I am…

> you get to talk to people from all around the world i would say this is a bug not a feature. it should take time and effort to talk to people all over the world.

What? Why?

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by paul7986 »

Wow that promo video is real cheesy and Debbie gets it cause she's fictional.

There's been a push for VR since the 90s. The mass public still doesn't get it or want it in terms of ever being something huge.

I believe things like Echo Frames will be a mass product while any VR stuff is and will always be a niche market. Maybe FB hopes differently as they've pushed this isolating yet supposedly social experience for awhile without any type of real adoption.

Re: Facebook Horizon

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Post by boomlinde »

jodrellblank wrote: post #75
frisco wrote: post #65

I am so over goal-less MMOs with simplistic pastel graphics. We've done this so many times before. How is Horizon any different from Second Life? It's really unclear. Both are ugly. I am a huge fan of the idea of the Matrix, and I don't even think it needs to be gamified to be fun, but the graphics are such a big part of the appeal of VR for me. I would pay a lot of money just for a photorealistic VR house with a bea…

We've done this so many times before. Global birth rate is around 150,000 people per day. At Facebook scale that’s not one sucker born every minute but tens of thousands; millions of new Facebook users born every month. They never played second life or minecraft. “We” have done this, most humans haven’t.

> Global birth rate is around 150,000 people per day. At Facebook scale that’s not one sucker born every minute but tens of thousands; millions of new Facebook users born every month.

Yes, but how many of them are going to waste time playing pointless games like Horizon online? How many people that would play such a game haven't already? To say that there are a lot of Facebook users and that that naturally means a lot of players is strange given that VR headsets are still a luxury item and that Facebook Horizon doesn't essentially offer anything novel outside that.

> They never played second life or minecraft.

> "We" have done this, most humans haven't.

Similarly, most humans haven't played Horizon, and there is as far as I'm concerned no compelling reason to believe that a lot of people will. Who would waste their time in that disgusting looking world and present themselves using a bland Wii-like avatar?

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