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The forgotten joy of soap

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Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#181

It's quite remarkable how successful the marketing campaign against bar soap has been such that it's somehow thought of as unclean. All to get us to switch to far, far more wasteful liquid soap.

Do you ever get your bar soaps to last more than halfway though? When half is left, they are usually dry and don't lather at all, nearly unusable.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#182

I've been using bar soap for a good few years now as it was the means of cleaning that I could most-easily buy locally that seemed to incur the least plastic impact. I like to imagine that the invested energy density and cost of transport is better too, compared to gels and liquids. Regardless of all that worthiness though - I just prefer using the stuff and am gently delighted when I walk into my bathroom and minded…

Some places also sell bar shampoo. Something you can take on planes & can be sold in simple wax paper.

What's the real difference between shampoo and soap anyway? It's two kinds of soap, can't be that much difference.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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For anyone reading this, please don't try this without honest friends or an honest spouse who will give you feedback. It works for people with specific genetics, but not for the majority.

Also your honest person needs to be just far enough away from you to avoid being noseblind to you. Spouse is maybe not the best choice here.

receptor-mediated endocytosis (https://biologywise.com/mechanism-of-receptor-mediated-endoc...) is the process by which the body begins to ignore a persistent stimulus (notably, smell). i'm not sure if there's a long-term version of this, though.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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That's not true at all. I've traveled to most corners of the world, and the vast majority are little blocks of bar soap. Shampoo and Conditioner are usually the only in liquid form.

The only time I've encountered soap rather than shampoo has been in the US (not even Canada) and Gaza (for some odd reason, but I always stay in the same hotel there) Hotels from Brazil to Kenya, from New Zealand to China, from Pakistan to Denmark, have always had liquid soap for the shower.

It’s a hotel thing. 99% of homes in Brazil will have a soap bar in the shower.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#185
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> I wash hands tens of times per day. Every time before touching food, or after touching something potentially poisonous (like eliquid, strong detergents, gasoline, etc). You may want to read this from the US CDC: When is clean too clean? https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/7/2/70-0225_article

So basically: Everyone use alcohol-based hand cleaners.

No.

Alcohol based cleaners don't work against a variety of germs that are important in healthcare settings. (eg norovirus).

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#186
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No, you'll be fine and you'll quickly gain missing immunities, if you have any. A good chunk of the behaviors might even be counterproductive.

I hope so, I've heard otherwise. I was personally a filthy kid, so I'm not talking about me.

My wife was a severely germ-sheltered child like that. She has overcome it, and she does not get sick any more than I, a pretty grimy/dirty/often-filthy farm kid, do.

The hardest thing about that upbringing for her is that her instincts toward our children are very much geared toward avoiding germs at all costs. Because that was how she was raised, that's the only way she really knows how to raise our kids. Fortunately, I'm there to get them really, really dirty.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

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somehow thought of as unclean To be fair: if your hands are dirty like from gardening or working on a bicycle then some of that dirt will stick to the soap and stay there until after a couple of 'clean' uses. But in my mind that doesn't mean the soap is unclean. After all, the visible dirt is normally a lot less to worry about than the stuff which you don't perceive with your bare eyes. Of which I actually don't know…

Just rinse off the bar of soap under the running water as you finish washing your hand, and problem solved.

I'm well aware, but I find that a waste of soap. Also (maybe should have made that more clear) I don't care if my soap bar looks dirty, that doesn't really hinder it's functionality.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#188

I've been using bar soap for a good few years now as it was the means of cleaning that I could most-easily buy locally that seemed to incur the least plastic impact. I like to imagine that the invested energy density and cost of transport is better too, compared to gels and liquids. Regardless of all that worthiness though - I just prefer using the stuff and am gently delighted when I walk into my bathroom and minded…

Same here, the joy of a good Marseille soap (I'm in France). It lasts at least 3 months for showers, washing hands, and everything (hair as well) I heard some people wash their teeth with soap, I'm not there yet :))

I have never heard of this (UK), a bar of soap you can wash hair with?

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#189

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the 65 million dollar question: do you only wash your butthole with water as well

Not since moving to Germany. They don't have bidets here, and the toilets are mounted to the wall, so you don't have access to the water intake line to install one, nor can you install washlets :/

You might like these: https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/items/?_nkw=bidet+bottle&_sacat=&...

or even a basic jug like the most basic of Indian bathrooms, which takes a little more practice.

Re: The forgotten joy of soap

#190
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What you're interpreting as "clean feeling" is likely stripping your skin of its protective oils. That's why we (doctors) don't recommend soaps as a general rule. That oil is there for a reason.

How big a problem is this if you re-oil afterwards? I use soap and just apply jojoba oil (and aloe) after showering, which I understand is similar to human oil, but it's unclear to me whether it's truly a good enough 1:1 replacement or if I could be doing some kind of harm longer-term.

I don't know about long term harm but it won't replicate all the effects of natural skin oils. Our oils contain compounds that keep the acidity just right and keep microbes from taking over. We've evolved those oils over a long time.
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