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Re: Why am I interested in Elixir?

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Post by thelazydogsback » Wed, Jul 10, 2019, 3:37 PM UTC

verttii wrote: post #37

thelazydogsback wrote: post #28

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Sounds like F# on dotnetcore or Reason may suite you

What makes you say that? I mean what would they do better than I could do with Elixir or Haskell? I use Elixir when typical APIs or stateful soft real-time stuff is needed and Haskell whenever I have some complex data structures and logic to work on. I'm unfamiliar with F# and .NET stuff. C# I don't like one bit, if that's anywhere near that avenue. I've tried Reason but didn't quite click with it. Ended up preferrin…

Here are some starting points -- not necessarily the latest/best refs but should do:

https://www.hanselman.com/blog/LearningAboutTheFSAFEStackSua...

https://websharper.com/

https://github.com/kunjee17/awesome-fable https://fsbolero.io/ https://medium.com/fuzzycloud/current-state-of-web-programmi...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCRYBivH9BM

https://elmish.github.io/#docs

Re: Why am I interested in Elixir?

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Post by verttii » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 11:48 AM UTC

thelazydogsback wrote: post #181

verttii wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you say that? I mean what would they do better than I could do with Elixir or Haskell? I use Elixir when typical APIs or stateful soft real-time stuff is needed and Haskell whenever I have some complex data structures and logic to work on. I'm unfamiliar with F# and .NET stuff. C# I don't like one bit, if that's anywhere near that avenue. I've tried Reason but didn't quite click with it. Ended up preferrin…

Here are some starting points -- not necessarily the latest/best refs but should do: https://www.hanselman.com/blog/LearningAboutTheFSAFEStackSua... https://websharper.com/ https://github.com/kunjee17/awesome-fable https://fsbolero.io/ https://medium.com/fuzzycloud/current-state-of-web-programmi... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCRYBivH9BM https://elmish.github.io/#docs

Thanks, excellent resources!

Re: Why am I interested in Elixir?

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Post by verttii » Fri, Jul 12, 2019, 12:07 PM UTC

thelazydogsback wrote: post #180

verttii wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you say that? I mean what would they do better than I could do with Elixir or Haskell? I use Elixir when typical APIs or stateful soft real-time stuff is needed and Haskell whenever I have some complex data structures and logic to work on. I'm unfamiliar with F# and .NET stuff. C# I don't like one bit, if that's anywhere near that avenue. I've tried Reason but didn't quite click with it. Ended up preferrin…

Not sure why you don't like C#, as to me it's the most sane and powerful of the Java-esque languages. I'm familiar and have used all the usual suspects, and IMHO I like the .net stack. I said F# because you said you liked both Haskell (ML-style languages) and ELM. (F# however of course eager-eval like OCaml/Reason and doesn't quite have higher-order types.) And you said, "Haskell is not as ideal for web development"…

Perhaps I've managed to somehow develop an inherent allergy to Java'ish languages. I use plenty of Dart nowadays and as a language it's not something I like to use. However, other things count too and the platform (Flutter) is awesome.

Most importantly, I've grown into immutable data a little too much to willingly give that up.

> you can't really beat asp.net core on the back-end side of things

I guess you could argue that about Elixir too, particularly with soft real-time stuff. And Haskell does a good job in its own right where I find Elixir lacking.

Unfortunately still not seeing the benefits of really putting the effort to picking up something new when there's nothing clear to gain from it.