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Re: Give Firefox a chance

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> I still use Firefox, but I'm getting more and more irritated against it. I had to search the web in order to change the tile of empty tabs (no buttons, no context menu, only drag-n-drop from bookmarks). Who designed such an unguessable interface? Whenever I hear people complain about the settings being impossible to figure out, I always open them up and try. So I opened settings, which has a search input at the top…

I tried Firefox here just now to see if it's gotten any better since I last tried. I open the preferences window. Well, not quite. Instead of a preferences window like every other application I've ever used, it's some sort of webpage which opens in a new tab in the same window as the webpage I'm browsing. The controls are all completely custom, and the layout looks nothing like any preferences window I've seen since…

> Well, not quite. Instead of a preferences window like every other application I've ever used, it's some sort of webpage which opens in a new tab in the same window as the webpage I'm browsing.

Well, I can think of one other program that puts its settings in a web page and a tab: Chrome. Hope you're not using that...

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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I switched to Chrome from Firefox years ago because Chrome has a better UX (faster, snappier, cleaner UI). A couple years ago I tried to switch back to Firefox (right after the Quantum project landed, and Firefox was meant to be a lot faster), but found FF to still be bloated, slow, and painful to use. A couple weeks ago I made another try to switch back to FF, and I have found the experience to be very pleasant this…

I had the same experience. Switched to Chrome from Firefox years ago, tried and was disappointed by the initial Quantum release, tried Firefox again with the “Chrome is killing uBlock Origin” announcement, very pleased this time. My main gripe with Firefox at the moment is Sync. It just doesn’t sync everything you need. My Firefox profile is highly customized, with a lot of extensions that all have their own complex…

Yes. Sync isn't so good. Now I am going to create a list of FF minuses

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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I want to move on from Chrome, and Firefox's Containers have made Firefox an easy decision for me. But I am a huge fan of Chrome's aesthetic and don't want to give that up for the sake of privacy. I am not one to do extensive tweaking to my machine, but this is important to me, so I spent an hour experimenting. And I have to say, I am pretty satisfied. Even though it isn't straightforward, Firefox actually can look n…

Wow. Interesting thing. Going to try this CSS customization

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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> by making it difficult to manually extract passwords Not true for Firefox. Just go the privacy settings, forms, saved logins.

That’s difficult for a common workflow. Going into “settings” for a password is as goofy as going into settings to look at your calendar.

What common workflow requires accessing usernames and passwords manually?

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. I use 1Password (most polished) and there's also Bitwarden (hosted, but open source) and others. And I use my password manager every day, so if there's a cost associated, it's worth it.

> For passwords the browser's built in management is inferior to password managers. Can you expound? After years of using various pw managers I found it being embedded in the browser very useful.

Recently I've restored my iPhone and lost all of my passwords in Safari. Now I use LastPass

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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I want to move on from Chrome, and Firefox's Containers have made Firefox an easy decision for me. But I am a huge fan of Chrome's aesthetic and don't want to give that up for the sake of privacy. I am not one to do extensive tweaking to my machine, but this is important to me, so I spent an hour experimenting. And I have to say, I am pretty satisfied. Even though it isn't straightforward, Firefox actually can look n…

Doesn’t want to use Firefox because the logo is old. Go figure.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Firefox has way better privacy controls than Chrome, however, their track record on security is abysmal. In fact, a 0-day was just found last week targeting Coinbase employees. I wish I could switch to Firefox for privacy reasons, but good security is table stakes and Firefox just doesn't have nearly the security credentials that Chrome does at the moment. This definitely could change in the future, and I hope it doe…

> Firefox has way better privacy controls than Chrome, however, their track record on security is abysmal. In fact, a 0-day was just found last week targeting Coinbase employees.

All complex codebases, especially web browsers, will suffer from 0-days and other critical bugs. You cannot use the occurrence of 0-days as a measure of security maturity. what matters is how such occurrences are handled, incidentally Mozilla handled the last 0-day well.

In between Google crippling Chrome users ability to control the code that runs on their machines and Mozilla’s investment in security innovation at the lowest levels(Rust) I am pretty happy as a Firefox user.

Re: Give Firefox a chance

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Not much content in this article. A single benchmark which shows nothing of real-life cases. Two minor technical features, one of them already in Chrome beta. Lastly, an appeal to fight Chrome's monopole. Surprisingly, not a word about privacy. I do give Firefox a chance, but it gets tiring. Many years ago, I dropped Firefox's ancestor for Opera 6. The UI and the features were miles ahead (e.g. Mozilla had no tabs).…

Yes, this article is short, but it's just a few reasons that moved me from Chrome. And people need to try themselves
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