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Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by jtreminio »

wlesieutre wrote: post #154
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also I might be in the minority but I actually prefer the feel of the keyboard vs the previous unibody keys. It is not the feel of the keyboard that is "hated" - it's the reliability (the feel of the keyboard AFTER it stops being new and starts being... the 2016+ rMBP butterfly keyboard). I wonder if the 2019 keyboard is fixed, but I'm VERY sceptical.

There are people who hate the key feel too. I think it's people who type more forcefully; the new keyboards have a nice clicky feel with a low travel distance, but they require a light touch or you're basically slamming your fingers into a solid object. I don't know why people type like that, but they do. I wonder if there's any correlation with people who stomp their feet when they walk. It's like they never picked…

Once you become used to a nice, clicky mechanical keyboard, or have spent time typing on a Lenovo laptop, keyboards with travel feel much less jarring on fingertips.

Suggesting people who like travel on keyboards walk around stomping their feet is hilariously misinformed.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by eddieroger »

jbigelow76 wrote: post #20
dustinfarris wrote: post #2

This is what Touch Bar should have been from the beginning IMO. I've been on the fence to upgrade my 2012 MBP. I've been concerned about buying into the Touch Bar hardware when it seems like it is not coming to any other Macs. Why should I devote time to learning Touch Bar and trying to find ways to integrate it with my workflow when keyboard shortcuts are more than enough—and probably better? What happens when I sit…

I've been concerned about buying into the Touch Bar hardware when it seems like it is not coming to any other Macs. If Apple was going to try and open a new front on the "hearts and minds of Touch Bar skeptics" war then the Mac Pro reveal at WWDC a few weeks ago would have been the time to do it, that they didn't makes me think it's not long for this world. Not because the Mac Pro sales would have been hampered by it…

If memory serves, the logic to drive the Touch Bar is something that came from the Watch, which also included the Secure Enclave and other features that were more mobile than desktop. If that was true, then you can't trust the USB cable alone (or Bluetooth) to maintain the trust that circuit needs, and a keyboard with a Touch Bar would require a new circuit or at least design change to only do the display part, not the rest. It makes sense they won't put it in standalone keyboards just yet.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by geekles »

dustinfarris wrote: post #2

This is what Touch Bar should have been from the beginning IMO. I've been on the fence to upgrade my 2012 MBP. I've been concerned about buying into the Touch Bar hardware when it seems like it is not coming to any other Macs. Why should I devote time to learning Touch Bar and trying to find ways to integrate it with my workflow when keyboard shortcuts are more than enough—and probably better? What happens when I sit…

Sidecar adds a Touch Bar on the iPad to all Macs that support Sidecar.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by bnycum »

canadaduane wrote: post #164
monkeynotes wrote: post #150

IMO cmd+tab is far superior since it requires less movement from the rest position. I can navigate contexts extremely efficiently. I also use cmd+~ a lot for in-app window switching. I do like the idea of having the touch-bar as a notification center though, that would be pretty helpful. I have my Macbook on a stand with an external keyboard. Besides being ergonomically better like that, I also missed the physical es…

I find that cmd+tab switching beyond 2 or 3 applications is not "superior" as it requires more recall of state than should be necessary. I've started using Alfred more often to switch to specific apps so that it doesn't matter where I'm coming "from" to get where I want to go "to." I also use Karibiner to switch the capslock key to "escape when pressed once" and "ctrl" when used in combination with any other key. Com…

What I typically do is cmd+tab then use the cursor to select the application from the popup.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by tylermw »

nerdwaller wrote: post #34

I'm not a lawyer, but I would consider revisiting your icon[0]. It looks identical to Patreon's[1] with a period/full-stop. On a technical note, this looks pretty cool and may have helped me hold off on ditching my mac products if I knew about it sooner! [0] https://pock.dev/assets/img/brand/pock_logo_w.png [1] https://c5.patreon.com/external/logo/guidelines/icon_color_v...

The logos are completely different (curvature, colors, extra circle). I don't think there's anything to worry about here. Patreon doesn't have a monopoly on logos that look vaguely like a P.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by daniel_reetz »

wlesieutre wrote: post #154
tobyhinloopen wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Also I might be in the minority but I actually prefer the feel of the keyboard vs the previous unibody keys. It is not the feel of the keyboard that is "hated" - it's the reliability (the feel of the keyboard AFTER it stops being new and starts being... the 2016+ rMBP butterfly keyboard). I wonder if the 2019 keyboard is fixed, but I'm VERY sceptical.

There are people who hate the key feel too. I think it's people who type more forcefully; the new keyboards have a nice clicky feel with a low travel distance, but they require a light touch or you're basically slamming your fingers into a solid object. I don't know why people type like that, but they do. I wonder if there's any correlation with people who stomp their feet when they walk. It's like they never picked…

I type like this. I have found that it substantially reduces my RSI. YMMV.

The travel on a butterfly keyboard is less than 1mm. It's hard to avoid bottoming out. When you say "light touch", it means truly feather-light. A keyboard that needs to be handled so delicately has no place in my world, and will pose difficulty for many.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by pushcx »

I've been using this for the last two months on my work machine and really like it. The first week I used this machine the touch bar was an irritating distraction; then I removed everything except esc, sleep, mute, and the brightness/volume sliders. Pock makes the touch bar useful, especially the red dots for notifications.

My Pock settings: refresh every 30s, uncheck "hide control strip" and "hide persistent items" so I can put often-used folders in the dock to see them on the touch bar. Check "hide finder", "hide trash", and "launch at login". (On this last: once or twice an update or wake has left me with the default touch bar and I've had to manually restart Pock.)

My Dock settings: shrink the size down, move it to the left or right, uncheck "minimize windows into application items", check "automatically show and hide the Dock", uncheck "show recent applications in Dock". Unfortunately there is still no way to entirely remove the Dock.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by rz2k »

gutnor wrote: post #140
bodegajed wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also on the fence about upgrading. I am thinking of just buying a mac keyboard so I have an escape key. That key is very essential to my workflow. Do you think it's a good idea?

Mac OS support by default to map the Caps Lock key as an Escape key. Back in the "old" days, nobody would have voluntarily admitted they used the regular Escape key implying their hand movement is anything less than optimal. Hell, Mac OS was praised for almost not making any use of the carpal tunnel inducing function keys. Then the touch bar was released ;-)

For anyone else reading this, the option is found in System Preferences > Keyboard > Modifier Keys...

For more complex modifications there is Karabiner-Elements, which is especially useful if you use Hammerspoon.

Re: Pock: Display macOS Dock in Touch Bar

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Post by wlesieutre »

jtreminio wrote: post #181
wlesieutre wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are people who hate the key feel too. I think it's people who type more forcefully; the new keyboards have a nice clicky feel with a low travel distance, but they require a light touch or you're basically slamming your fingers into a solid object. I don't know why people type like that, but they do. I wonder if there's any correlation with people who stomp their feet when they walk. It's like they never picked…

Once you become used to a nice, clicky mechanical keyboard, or have spent time typing on a Lenovo laptop, keyboards with travel feel much less jarring on fingertips. Suggesting people who like travel on keyboards walk around stomping their feet is hilariously misinformed.

I've got one (kaihua browns) and like that too. But I don't type on my laptop keyboard as if it has that much key travel.
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