Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome • Hacker News Board

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by fimdomeio » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:10 PM UTC

crazygringo wrote: post #170

I've never understood what happened to reCAPTCHA, it was originally so great and is now just so, so toxic. Originally it was an awesome solution based on OCR'ing books that usually worked quickly on the first try, and almost never took more than two. Then it turned into a single checkbox (analyzing mouse movement) so it was even faster... and I remember some simple image-based like "select the images of cats" that we…

Originaly it didn't belong to google, it was an aquisition. I remember seeing a ted talk about it.

To me it constantly feels like I'm working for google for free for their AI projects which is very annoying comparing to help a smaller company OCR books.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by bscphil » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:11 PM UTC

bduerst wrote: post #128

bscphil wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was assuming that most people were using v3, my browser was flunking the scoring test, and v2 with the UI was being shown as a backup. Did everyone decide not to use v3 for some reason?

v3 is the newest version that came out only recently, and requires changes to the front end implementation. You have probably used it but because it didn't prompt you, you don't remember it (i.e. survivor bias).

I see - I assumed your top level comment was talking about something after v3, since that's already out. It would be interesting to see which sites have already implemented it. Maybe there's a userscript or something that can detect it in the page?

Personally I'm skeptical it will ever work correctly for me without tinkering, because I block third party requests (especially to Google) by default.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by erinnh » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:13 PM UTC

nprateem wrote: post #49

victorheld wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've recently had issues with buster where Google detects it, giving me this error: "Your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now". Is there a solution for this?

It may not be buster causing that. I see that sometimes on a VPN, but also when not on a VPN but using Firefox with ghostery/ublock origin, etc.

It may not, but Ive seen the same. Only with Buster. And only since recently.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by tsjq » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:13 PM UTC

i shifted from Chrome to Firefox a few months ago. been facing this super-slow Captchas. I simply assumed this is due to some network slow / server slow / browser slow. I didn't even bother to go back to Chrome to compare this.

After reading comments in this thread, now I realize this is intentional thing against Firefox.

Damn Google. what happened to your "Don't be evil" beginnings ?

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by TheKarateKid » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:13 PM UTC

I get this all the time with Safari.

It’s because Google can’t read as much about you in more privacy based browsers, so you have to prove yourself.

Not saying it’s right, but that’s the reason. It needs to be changed.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by ben509 » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:14 PM UTC

partiallypro wrote: post #7

baggy_trough wrote: post #3

The Google captcha enrages me. Why should I train their stupid AI?

What's funny is that the AI needs to be trained...yet it already knows which choices are correct and incorrect. So, is it really necessary? Edit: This is a joke, I am joking.

> Edit: This is a joke, I am joking.

The voters seem to have formed a consensus that it was not a joke, unfortunately, so your humor has failed the test.

(This was a meta-joke, and I too am joking.)

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by N0RMAN » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:14 PM UTC

Someone explain to him that you have to click the Verify button on both browser.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by fencepost » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

muzika wrote: post #162

akeck wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit more expensive, but for this type of thing and other reasons, I now use a CPA.

... who then use an Intuit product to file your taxes

If it's a CPA that's not on their own, there's a good chance they're using something vertical market instead - Wolters Kluwer, Thomson Reuters, not sure what others.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by stunt » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

I don't have this issue.

Re: Google's Captcha in Firefox vs. in Chrome

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Post by baybal2 » Mon, Jun 10, 2019, 5:15 PM UTC

fasthandle wrote: post #85

dessant wrote: post #39

I was going through the same ordeal as a Firefox user, so I've made Buster to solve challenges and reclaim some of that lost time: https://github.com/dessant/buster If you're a developer, please consider replacing reCAPTCHA on your site with an alternative. reCAPTCHA discriminates against people with disabilities and those who seek privacy, and it gaslights you into thinking you did not solve the challenge correctly,…

reCAPTCHA also just doesn't work in the most populous country in the world. translate.google.cn does, but Google's reCAPTCHA does not. This is a big pain point. Thanks for the link to turingtest, I will certainly test it.

I find it ironic that out of all things google, it was translate.google.cn to be given an exemption. There is a meme going around that this was country's chief censor's personal decision.