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Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by gcb0 »

paulddraper wrote: post #173
morpheuskafka wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Couldn't you do the same thing with github.io, S3 Websites, Netlify, the list goes on? Why would they single out JSFiddle among numerous services where one can upload arbitrary code?

The laziness of scammers never ceases to amaze. There's the theory that misspellings in a Nigerian email are meant to filter only the truly gullible, but IDK if that is true.

lazyness of the people trying to stop those scams should amaze you.

Nothing proves the scammers are not using those other alternatives for all you know.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by meowface »

naikrovek wrote: post #165
kbenson wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a complete tangent, I think "rogue" might be the most misspelled word for those that otherwise have good spelling. It's still jarring every time I see it, decade after decade. And "loose" instead of "lose", but that one is just confusing.

I see "break" ALL THE TIME where "brake" should be used. rouge -> rogue loose -> lose lose -> loose break -> brake And many more that I can't recall at the moment... In my youth I spent an absolutely obscene amount of energy correcting these people, bit now I just automatically lower the veracity of what they're saying each time I see some literacy problem. That isn't fair to those people because not everyone speaks…

"lead -> led" (past tense of the verb "to lead") is also a pretty common one for native speakers.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by Barrin92 »

duxup wrote: post #125
Ensorceled wrote: post #113

How many people are actually linking to valid JSFiddle links from Twitter? This might have just been a math decision (X% malware > x% good links). I have my own problems with Twitter, but a social media site with a LOT of non-technical users blocking access to a site specifically designed to run anonymous code in their browser doesn't make me want to break out my pitchfork ...

I think the math would then lead to only big sites being "good enough" to pass the twitter test as to who gets a whole domain filtered or not, and if you're running a site that someone does a bad thing on ... so much for anyone linking to you anymore on Twitter. That seems inherently bad.

It shouldn't be twitters job to clean up after jsfiddle, who don't seem to put any effort whatsoever into mitigating malicious code beings shared on their site.

Doesn't really take much for a code sharing site to demand registration before you share code and to have a report button.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by chc »

gmanley wrote: post #143
sfkdjf9j3j wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Avoiding deliberately inflammatory alt-right language like "snowflake" would probably go a long way in getting people to engage in good faith with you, for whatever that's worth.

That phrase has a long history of use way before alt-right was even a thing. I've never heard of it being co-opted by any particular group. Other than in extreme cases, that's just not how words work. Just because one group uses a word doesn't mean it's taken out of the lexicon for everyone else. In fact, I think you are giving a group unneeded power by suddenly categorizing certain words as their language that shoul…

Most words have a history of use before their current use. Führer was just German for "leader," but it still has some very specific connotations nowadays. In this particular case, the word snowflake, when used in a context similar to how that poster used it, is very strongly associated with far-right "political correctness" grievances these days.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by tedunangst »

gmanley wrote: post #143
sfkdjf9j3j wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Avoiding deliberately inflammatory alt-right language like "snowflake" would probably go a long way in getting people to engage in good faith with you, for whatever that's worth.

That phrase has a long history of use way before alt-right was even a thing. I've never heard of it being co-opted by any particular group. Other than in extreme cases, that's just not how words work. Just because one group uses a word doesn't mean it's taken out of the lexicon for everyone else. In fact, I think you are giving a group unneeded power by suddenly categorizing certain words as their language that shoul…

Prior use of the word snowflake just means somebody who thinks they're uniquely special. Just like everybody else. And I'd say you can continue using it in that sense.

But the particular meaning of snowflake as someone who is too sensitive and easily triggered is newer and more inflammatory.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by vanderZwan »

themacguffinman wrote: post #175
vanderZwan wrote: post #161

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It's not about whether it's Twitter's job to "train" them, a warning page before continuing a link is hardly that. It's about whether they should trust their users and believe that the latter can take responsibility for their own choices, and figure these things out themselves.

> It's about whether they should trust their users and believe that the latter can take responsibility for their own choices, and figure these things out themselves. You're just begging the question. Why should they do that?

Not really, this is turning into the equivalent of a six year old replying with "why?" to every answer, except you're adults pretending to be oblivious.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by stordoff »

vanderZwan wrote: post #23

What I find strange how this is presented as an either-or option between banning and not banning. You can also have an intermediate warning page. YouTube does this to any third-party website for example. Something like "Warning: JSFiddle has been abused by spammers to run crypto mining scripts. We recommend that you that you do not continue to this JSFiddle page unless you trust the source of the link" should work ju…

Steam does this:

> Notice:

> You are leaving Steam.

> Never enter your Steam password on an untrusted website. Any login form on an official Steam site will display "Valve Corp." in green with a padlock icon in your browser’s address bar, as shown below:

https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://anyURL

For anything that looks malicious (""" rel="nofollow">https://anyURL"):

> Link Blocked!

> This link has been flagged as potentially malicious.

> https://anyURL%3Ch1%3E has been flagged as being potentially malicious. For your safety, Steam will not open this URL in your web browser. The site could contain malicious content or be known for stealing user credentials.

> Never enter your Steam password on an untrusted website. Any login form on an official Steam site will display "Valve Corp." in green with a padlock icon in your browser’s address bar, as shown below:

https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://anyURL%3C...

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by jrockway »

stordoff wrote: post #188
vanderZwan wrote: post #23

What I find strange how this is presented as an either-or option between banning and not banning. You can also have an intermediate warning page. YouTube does this to any third-party website for example. Something like "Warning: JSFiddle has been abused by spammers to run crypto mining scripts. We recommend that you that you do not continue to this JSFiddle page unless you trust the source of the link" should work ju…

Steam does this: > Notice: > You are leaving Steam. > Never enter your Steam password on an untrusted website. Any login form on an official Steam site will display "Valve Corp." in green with a padlock icon in your browser’s address bar, as shown below: https://steamcommunity.com/linkfilter/?url=https://anyURL For anything that looks malicious (" "" rel="nofollow">https://anyURL " ): > Link Blocked! > This link has…

This isn't even true anymore, though. Chrome doesn't display TLS as green, and I believe EV certs are on the way out. (Because anyone can register a company called "Valve Corp." and be issued an EV certificate.)

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by jrockway »

rchaud wrote: post #168
userbinator wrote: post #83

A reminder that you don't need to technically link in order to refer to a link, nor even mention the site directly: "See JSviolin xxxxx" If anyone gets confused, simply reply "replace violin with synonym starting with f"... This reminds me of when YouTube banned URLs in comments (I don't think they do anymore), so people started posting pieces of them (like video IDs, the part after watch?v=...) with hints instead: "…

That workaround reminds me of phpBB Forums that blocked URLs, so users would spell them like "hxxp://www..."

Speaking of removing links... in Overwatch there is a character called D.va. The Overwatch League twitch chat removes all links, meaning that if you mention her, other users see it as "" instead of "d.va". It's amazing.
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