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Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by azernik »

mrep wrote: post #126
azernik wrote: post #66

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And all of those iOS developers have somehow gotten along just fine without doing their development on an iOS device.

This thread is about using an iPad as a laptop replacement which no developer can do if they want to develop for Mac/IOS so what is your point?

You seemed to be arguing that Apple was at risk of losing its developers for iPad if it didn't make it suitable as a development platform. That's not plausible.

You seem to be responding to a higher-level comment saying "developers are not the target audience" with "but it's not suitable for developers", which... yeah?

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by tatersolid »

sjsotelo wrote: post #82
psychometry wrote: post #10

As someone who prefers to own music and organize it how I want, this is incredibly disappointing. I have no doubt that Apple Music will include only a fraction of the features I've come to depend on.

1000% agree with you. As a DJ and a connoisseur of 24bit music iTunes is incredibly good at organization not to mention the third party support in dj software and applications. I cannot believe a better windows alternative will ever exist and honestly unless a team is backed with money probably won’t be.

Regarding those 24-bit music files... from a expert in audio coding and a designer of Vorbis and Opus codecs: https://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

Save yourself some disk space my friend.

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by stevewillows »

patrickk wrote: post #163
BigJono wrote: post #153

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I've been using Foobar2000 with some iPod plugin to sync my iPod classic for as long as I can remember. It's never failed me yet. That could be another option.

Which plugin? I've been trying to break free from iTunes with a modded 5.5 gen, but Rockbox caused endless errors where non-corrupted songs would skip constantly(1). Wiped back to the default Apple firmware, and voila, no skipping. I tried an iPod plugin for Musicbee, and it appeared to work (files were syncing in Musicbee) but the songs and playlists didn't appear on the iPod. So back to iTunes sadly. I'd love to ki…

I used to use iPod Manager [1].

When you add songs, do it from the original firmware. With the iFlash and all that, transferring files while loaded into Rockbox will cause the issue you mentioned... a lesson I learned after transferring about 80gb of FLACs.

When you boot the iPod, lock it right away and it'll boot to the normal firmware. The transfer speeds are better than using disk mode.

https://www.foobar2000.org/components/view/foo_dop

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by patrickk »

stevewillows wrote: post #183
patrickk wrote: post #163

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Which plugin? I've been trying to break free from iTunes with a modded 5.5 gen, but Rockbox caused endless errors where non-corrupted songs would skip constantly(1). Wiped back to the default Apple firmware, and voila, no skipping. I tried an iPod plugin for Musicbee, and it appeared to work (files were syncing in Musicbee) but the songs and playlists didn't appear on the iPod. So back to iTunes sadly. I'd love to ki…

I used to use iPod Manager [1]. When you add songs, do it from the original firmware. With the iFlash and all that, transferring files while loaded into Rockbox will cause the issue you mentioned... a lesson I learned after transferring about 80gb of FLACs. When you boot the iPod, lock it right away and it'll boot to the normal firmware. The transfer speeds are better than using disk mode. https://www.foobar2000.org/…

Thanks for the tip! I did some foobar2000 research yesterday and came across that component. It appears to work, next step is to convert remaining songs to mp3 so everything works as expected. I like foobar2000 lightweight 'feel', Musicbee feels like an explosion of panels everywhere by comparison.

I'm using the original firmware with a while now, it's less error prone and the UI on rockbox isn't exatly polished.

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by stevewillows »

patrickk wrote: post #184
stevewillows wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to use iPod Manager [1]. When you add songs, do it from the original firmware. With the iFlash and all that, transferring files while loaded into Rockbox will cause the issue you mentioned... a lesson I learned after transferring about 80gb of FLACs. When you boot the iPod, lock it right away and it'll boot to the normal firmware. The transfer speeds are better than using disk mode. https://www.foobar2000.org/…

Thanks for the tip! I did some foobar2000 research yesterday and came across that component. It appears to work, next step is to convert remaining songs to mp3 so everything works as expected. I like foobar2000 lightweight 'feel', Musicbee feels like an explosion of panels everywhere by comparison. I'm using the original firmware with a while now, it's less error prone and the UI on rockbox isn't exatly polished.

fb2k is the best. By fluke I stumbled upon it when it first launched, and I've never looked back.

Rockbox is one of those things that is perfect once you live with it for a while. I've been using it since the iPod Video came out (and on a few devices.) The main thing with Rockbox and the modded iPods (iFlash etc) is limiting the EQ bands and other DSP settings. The Sandisk Clip+ is an unexpectedly killer device for Rockbox -- but like anything, the UI takes some getting used to.

Considering they're working around clickwheels with a center button, d-pads with menu button, some with power buttons, others without... its a bit of a marvel that everything is accessible on the devices that are able to be used -- but like I said, I've been using it for ages and can get around some of the odd navigational quirks.

One of the biggest benefits of Rockbox over the iPod firmware is 'timestretch' / playback speeds for files (podcasts, audiobooks.) Its still my favorite audiobook player.

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Post by acolumb »

mrgalaxy wrote: post #7

> Apple has pushed the iPad as a laptop replacement for years. But many pro users have noted that while the hardware is capable enough, the software is still behind. As other HN users have noted in the past, until Apple gives me access to a terminal where I can run the command line tools required for my work, I have absolutely zero interest in replacing my laptop with an iPad.

You CAN run a terminal with a jailbroken iPad.

Just sayin'

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by acolumb »

wtmt wrote: post #159

The only feature I want back is full app sync with a computer, like it used to be some years ago (both transferring from the iOS device to the computer and back from the computer to the iOS device). This was removed when app thinning was introduced, and partially retained in the iTunes version for enterprise. This saves bandwidth when managing multiple devices, makes setting up a new device a whole lot faster (than w…

Now, iTunes backups (which historically took up gobs of space on the tiny MacBook drives of years past,) only save app data, and restoring will take up the aforementioned bandwidth.

That’s why I use an iOS 6 iPhone 5 with iTunes 11 on OS X Mavericks.

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Post by baroffoos »

psychometry wrote: post #10

As someone who prefers to own music and organize it how I want, this is incredibly disappointing. I have no doubt that Apple Music will include only a fraction of the features I've come to depend on.

Bandcamp is way better than itunes for this. Gives you the option to download lossless audio as well.

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Post by mixmastamyk »

dwaite wrote: post #129
asveikau wrote: post #59

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I think you may be envisioning two extremes when the parent comment wants a happy medium. I.e. files on disk in any way the customer wants, but add a db on the side to do things like play counts and tags. With reasonable defaults for most people who don't care about filesystem layout.

That is how I always use iTunes, since the music was stored on my NAS. There is/was no requirement for iTunes to manage the storage and filesystem organization of your music - that was just the default.

The problem wasn't really at the iTunes end, that's just a symptom. It was at the iPod end. You'd go to a friends house and want to copy a few songs over from a Windows box and couldn't do it without installing a hundred gig monstrosity.

Re: Apple Plans End of iTunes

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Post by mixmastamyk »

chrisseaton wrote: post #51
brians wrote: post #46

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Hard links are going to blow your mind. https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Hard-Link... Seriously, I had my MP3s organized this way pre-iTunes. I get why that can’t scale to the general public, but I still think a tool could approximate it.

> Hard links are going to blow your mind. I know what hard links are. > I get why that can’t scale to the general public So why suggest it as a solution? > pre-iTunes So even you gave up on it?

Imagine... a program that could automate this for you. We could call it an "Application."
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