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C# unfortunately has the same issue, but the effect is much more visible. Few people (I'm sure you can find examples, but given how popular the language is on Windows, it's a tiny minority) use C# outside of Windows and it's a shame. There is no good open ecosystem so even as a former Windows dev I hardly use it anymore.
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Visual Basic was basically(!) killed by Microsoft albeit large protest, so no, putting your trust in one company does not always work. PHP has been developed very well the past few years as community project, there is an open RFC process with a codified voting process in place. Sure there have been some drama within the community, but that has not affected either the language nor the implementation. What makes PHP a…
Visual Basic lives on as VB.NET and to this day VB 6 runtime keeps being updated to run on the latest versions of Windows.
The VB6 runtime is indeed updated to run, but really how much update does it need beyond sticking the DLLs around? The VB4 and VB5 runtimes run perfectly fine on Win10 and those had no updates for it. It all relies on Win10's overall backwards compatibility.
Actually there are relatively few real (TM) open source projects driven by the community, at least if you look at important projects. Many open source projects are just commercial projects driven mainly by a single company. Look for example at Redis, MongoDB, MySQL, and Elasticsearch. They follow exactly the model described in the article. Technologies like these could have been developed by a community, too, but it…
Prometheus is a (rare) recent example of a significant, thriving open-source project that is community-based. Not quite as broad in scope as something like Elasticsearch though.
I'd say "thriving community-based open source projects" are rare in the sense that most open source projects don't thrive (especially if you count every open-licensed repository on github), but there are tons of examples.
To determine how open a language really is look at how many widely used implementations of the compiler there are for the language. If there is only a single implementation of the compiler/interpreter than it is not really open but controlled by that core compiler team.
Most languages I can think of have one very dominant implementation and maybe another one or two that few people use. Python, Ruby, Java, C#, Go, Rust, Haskell... C/C++ are the only exception since Clang became serious competition to GCC and Visual Studio. Even Javascript only really has Chrome and Firefox.
For what it's worth I'm a semi-grey beard (20 years in) and I love golang. For me it was like going back to being 8 years old on my Commodore Plus/4 and really enjoying writing code again. It needs close parenting. Java has been ruined by the push to include everyone's pet feature.
Isn't that C#? Java is very slow at adding new features, Java has only things that were proved to work in other languages.
I love Golang to some extend, the moment it's released, it's like new fresh air from Java. But because i don't like Google, i never adopt Golang. Thanks God, we have Javascript, and maybe Rust.
Best language to write multi-threaded apps.
For what it's worth I'm a semi-grey beard (20 years in) and I love golang. For me it was like going back to being 8 years old on my Commodore Plus/4 and really enjoying writing code again. It needs close parenting. Java has been ruined by the push to include everyone's pet feature.
>everyone's pet feature Isn't that C#? Java is very slow at adding new features, Java has only things that were proved to work in other languages.
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Given that the go core team has committed to adding generics I don't think it's fair to say they don't listen to critique from the community. Is there a more contentious issue in go?!
Not really, that is the hand waving when the issue ever pops up. Rob Pike already stated publicly that he is against the proposed idea for Go 2.0. "Rob Pike - Go 2 Draft Specifications" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIvL2ONhFBI