Tell HN: Archive.is inaccessible via Cloudflare DNS (1.1.1.1)

Post by sseth » Sun, May 05, 2019, 9:01 AM UTC

kiwijamo wrote: post #160

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Because what you get is often faster, more accurate and more resilient compared to the junk DNS run by most ISPs. And because most site visits start with a Google search anyway. And finally, because I am comfortable with their privacy statement : https://developers.google.com/speed/public-dns/privacy

I live in New Zealand where all the ISPs and mobile carriers provide fast and reliable DNS resolvers. I've looked into switching to alterntive DNS providers but every one of them are slower than my ISP's resolver. I'm aware that the sitation is quite different in the US and certan other countries, but I wish more Americans were aware that junk ISP-provided DNS servers seem to be an issue exclusive to certain countrie…

Post by thinkingemote » Sun, May 05, 2019, 9:23 AM UTC

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archive.is is a very important tool in online extremism research and you've taken money from far-right extremists, your explanation for why it's inaccessible seems incomplete. This is probably where I get banned from Hn but it has to be said - to posture as if you care about end users while in the same breath taking money from extremists and turning over personal identifiable information to far-right outlets like Dai…

This is amusing, They Banned the DailyStormer which I why I will never support them. While I disagree 100% with the DailyStormer it is not up to cloudflare to decide who can and can not speak, who can and can not access the internet. The concept of Free Speech is the most important right we have as humanity, while I may not agree with some peoples words I will fight for their right to say those words And do not even…

Post by stevekemp » Sun, May 05, 2019, 10:39 AM UTC

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Hard to tell from the outside, but archive.is did blacklist the whole of Finland a while back - due to personal grudge.

Who runs archive.is? Sounds childish without knowing any of the facts.

Post by zzzcpan » Sun, May 05, 2019, 11:40 AM UTC

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> There is no guarantee the name server they are querying is the same as the server in the A result That's ok. Let me try to explain a bit more: Queries to 1.1.1.1 are going over public internet. And even though they are encrypted, they also carry metadata with them, including IP addresses of who is doing them, precise time, rough size, various OS specific stuff, etc. And packets going out to authoritative servers fr…

Not quite as easy as when you just have to intercept traffic at one of the intermediate nodes though, it seems. I think that makes the privacy argument a fairly valid thing.

Post by speedplane » Sun, May 05, 2019, 12:36 PM UTC

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Yes, I want them to censor lies and misleading speech. People or services that feed the public dangerous misinformation should be silenced. I realize that’s a slippery slope, but I just don’t trust the public to filter for themselves any more.

So who should be the arbitrator of truth? You do understand that I can cite many many many many many examples though out history where actual truth was suppressed, actual advancement was suppressed by those in power. Free Speech is the most powerful tool Minorities and oppressed people through out the world have to end their oppression, and you just want to strip it away because of fear... How can you not see how utt…