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Israel’s Beresheet Spacecraft Moon Landing Attempt Appears to End in Crash

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Post by geofft »

MagicPropmaker wrote: post #151
reissbaker wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beresheet means "genesis," and if we know anything about the genesis of the universe it's that there's a big explosion.

It means "In the beginning" (בראשית) (The prefix "ב" meaning "in", the root "ראש" meaning "head" --used both for the part of the body, and to mean "starting" or "principal"--and the suffux "ית" being the a type of feminine suffix)

That said, it is the Hebrew name of the book of scripture commonly called "Genesis" in English, because it's the first word (incipit) of that book. So people who translate it as "genesis" are not totally making it up, and arguably it's a more poetic translation since the name of the book is (presumably) why they chose that name for the craft.

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Post by tick_tock_tick »

gerash wrote: post #174
deathhand wrote: post #124

Why do we give aid to space fairing nations? Couldn't the aid be better spent on our own space program?

It seems Israel is doing just fine economically and technologically. So I don't get why US politicians still justify giving out O($billion) every year in foreign aid while there are ample opportunities to spend them in their own country.

Cause all the aid is conditioned on them using it to buy US military hardware. It's roundabout military spending.

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Post by dredmorbius »

_Microft wrote: post #45
mrtksn wrote: post #13

It seems that they just got a new word in the dictionary: https://mobile.twitter.com/teamspaceil/status/11163129311033... I find it a bit irritating to be that cocky when it comes to space technology. Better luck next time!

Pride comes before a fall . (scnr)

And/or lithobraking.

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Post by nayyad »

rorykoehler wrote: post #172
nayyad wrote: post #166

So now you want to convince me that in 1969 they could man land on the moon and then come back to earth and in 2019 they still trying to nail down the tech ?

How much did NASA spend in the 60s?

What technologies did they have in the 60s? I computer used to cost thousands of dollars and its the size of your room in the 60s also.

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Post by rorykoehler »

nayyad wrote: post #184
rorykoehler wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much did NASA spend in the 60s?

What technologies did they have in the 60s? I computer used to cost thousands of dollars and its the size of your room in the 60s also.

We have both landed and crashed on Mars and the Moon recently. We're not just trying to figure this out, we're trying to figure it out AND do it cheaply.

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Post by Medraut »

jesseab wrote: post #16

It's time to retire the tired old nation-state space-race narrative. We're all in this together people. Their failure is our failure.

This! While my sentiment may feel a bit Star Trekky/naive, our quest to get to the stars will only succeed if we, as a planet, pull together. If we dont, we'll be limited to this solar system. China, US, India, Israel, Russia (sorry for anyone else Im missing :-)), are all pioneers and we should celebrate their successes, and continued desire to push the envelope.

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Post by SEJeff »

dmix wrote: post #56
sanxiyn wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I doubt SpaceIL will be able to use anything they learned. IIUC they are out of money and can't move forward.

The prime minister of Isreal announced they'll try again in two years. So that judgment may be a little premature. Regardless knowledge transfer isn't limited to either of those.

Prime Minister Netanyahu? There is a strong chance he'll be indicted and convicted, even though his new coalition is looking to dissolve the power of the judiciary (to bury his criminal indictments):

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-prime-minister-ben...

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Post by SEJeff »

ncmncm wrote: post #85
Goz3rr wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the article it says a SpaceX rocket brought them into space in the first place

Also a private, albeit subsidized, company.

Subsidy "here is some money to exist"

Contract "here is some money to meet these contractual requirements".

I think you're confusing SpaceX with United Launch Alliance (ULA), who's Annual Capability Payment of $1 billion per year was given to them literally so they can keep the lights on. A lot of congressmen were seeing red when ULA decided to not even bother with a bid for the most recent GPS launches (which SpaceX cleaned house with overall) where SpaceX required zero subsidy and managed to do it cheaper in every way.

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