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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by raxxorrax »

pjc50 wrote: post #180
raxxorrax wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much the whole Russia angle was a big pile of crap for democrats to save face. In my opinion, this hysteria is a big scandal for parts of the media, US institutions and the democratic party. Not saying that Putin is our friend or that republicans are the better choice in the US (not from there).

What about all the actually guilty? > Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies during their lengthy investigation, which is now complete. > That group is composed of six former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Seven of these people (including five of the six former Trump advisers…

Not relevant to the accusation in my opinion. I also have trouble with indictments for making false statements to the FBI, since this institution has become part of a problem itself.

Comparatively, these people don't seem to be clean but I am lacking a reference here.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by plankers »

idlewords wrote: post #24
whamlastxmas wrote: post #22

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Clearly propaganda, and there was only the single source that as we can clearly see now was adversarial.

Consistent with many descriptions of what it was like to have Assange on one's sofa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le3jrp6LzjI

What a dominant way to handle that situation. Especially the rotted fruit.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by saalweachter »

seba_dos1 wrote: post #164
dragonwriter wrote: post #101

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That's not an ad hominem, as the reports of his behavior as a guest are offered relevant to discussion of his behavior as a guest, not as dismissal of his claims to which that is irrelevant.

> as a guest You can hardly feel as a guest anymore if you live somewhere for 7 years.

I suspect tenant/squatter's rights do not apply in embassies, but I would love to hear a lawyer's opinion on that point.

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Post by Krasnol »

antt wrote: post #110
Krasnol wrote: post #96

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So you deliberately chose to ignore the personal/conspiracy/bs dirt he was throwing all over the place even after the Clinton show was over? I have no idea what you want to say with the second paragraph since even the 4-page summary confirms that the Russians did it.

The Clinton show isn't over until Sanders gets the Democratic nomination.

Yeah sure and the kids are down in the Pizzeria.

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Post by zapdrive »

bjoli wrote: post #122
black-tea wrote: post #52

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I'll give you one example. France has recently made it illegal to do paternity testing. Someone clearly understands that without all the lies their population of single mothers would skyrocket.

To be clear: France has made private paternity testing illegal, while you can still do it through a court decision. Still weird and the reasoning behind it seems backwards.

But why make private testing illegal. It's very clear that only a very small percentage of people who wish to get a test done would approach the court, and how many of them would get the order? E.g. I suspected my child was not mine, so I got a test done secretly only to find out my suspicion was wrong and I was actually the father. Would I have approached the court for the test, if it was illegal? Most likely not, and I would have lived the rest of the life in a doubt. And even if I did approach the court, it would have affected my already strained relationship with my wife.

Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by saalweachter »

vinceguidry wrote: post #169
dragonwriter wrote: post #97

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She's not locked up for leaking, she's locked up for flagrant contempt in an active grand jury investigation, one which otherwise poses her no legal jeopardy, since she has both immunity and, for much of the subject matter, double jeopardy protection since she's been tried, convicted, and served her sentence for her involvement.

I'm rather struck by the realization here that if a person has spent significant amounts of time in prison being locked up for following their principles, they may start looking at getting locked up for their principles as, well, just something they do. Is this a traumatic response to the initial experience or something more? After all, being willing to go to prison for your principles underlies much of 'real' activi…

There's also a certain sort of immunity brought about by the initial exposure.

There are a lot of reasons to not want to be in jail: not wanting to be confined, fear of physical violence... but as a middle-aged person with a family, friends and a job, being in jail for any length of time would just wreck my life. I'd lose my job, my relationship with my family would be strained, and I'd probably lose touch with most of my friends. Rebuilding afterwards would be difficult or even functionally impossible.

If I did have my life burned down around me once, my personality would probably tend towards not wanting it to happen a second time, but I could see another person saying "you can't burn ashes" and leaning into it.

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Post by Asooka »

geeareyou2019 wrote: post #17

Keep up the great Wikileaks! “In one of the messages, sent at 6:35 p.m. on the day of the election, Wikileaks wrote, "Hi Don if your father ‘loses’ we think it is much more interesting if he DOES NOT conceed [sic] and spends time CHALLENGING the media and other types of rigging that occurred—as he has implied that he might do." Wikileaks reportedly claimed contesting the election could help his father further delegit…

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Post by Asooka »

nasredin wrote: post #155
Mvandenbergh wrote: post #154

For the US, the ultimate move at this point would be to do absolutely nothing. Imagine how much of a prat he would look if he's been sitting in that embassy for 7 years for absolutely no reason.

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Re: Ecuador to Expel Assange Within ‘Hours to Days,’ WikiLeaks Says

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Post by antt »

Krasnol wrote: post #184
antt wrote: post #110

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The Clinton show isn't over until Sanders gets the Democratic nomination.

Yeah sure and the kids are down in the Pizzeria.

That to normal people sounds as ridiculous as the idea that Trump and Assange are Russian assets.
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