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Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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One idea I hear all the time: Better agile/project management software. I've never met a nerd who liked what they were using (myself included).

This is actually an interesting one, because I think it falls into its own specific category: workflow-specific startups. The reason no one is ever happy with project management software is because everyone works slightly differently, and every nerd will occasionally have the urge to write one that matches the way they work.

It's likely there are other startups that fall into this category. Time management and to-do lists seem like fairly obvious ones.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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post #14

One idea I hear all the time: Better agile/project management software. I've never met a nerd who liked what they were using (myself included).

This is actually an interesting one, because I think it falls into its own specific category: workflow-specific startups. The reason no one is ever happy with project management software is because everyone works slightly differently, and every nerd will occasionally have the urge to write one that matches the way they work. It's likely there are other startups that fall into this category. Time management and to-do…

This is definitely a huge problem in project management tools. I don't mean to spam, but with AgileZen (http://agilezen.com/), we're trying very, very hard to create a project management app that isn't workflow-specific. I'd be very interested in knowing how we could make it even more flexible.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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This just got me thinking that dating sites definitely fall into this category. Perhaps the answer is not a dating site but a dating tool, much like Facebook does not try to make you social connections, but facilitates the social connections you already have. You could write down the dates you have already been on, what you did/talked about, and compare notes with other people. Anyways, just a thought.

You mean like the whole pick-up artist community? Most girls aren't that interested in recording details of their dates, and definitely don't want other people knowing about their dating life (unless they're really young and want to brag that they're dating a football player, or in one recent case, have had the discriminating taste to sleep with half of the Duke lacrosse team).

This has been a running joke among friends for awhile: a Foursquare for girls. Checkin to girls and see who else has as well.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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That's totally missing the point of the zero-sum thing. I watched a few episodes of the VH1 show The Pick-up Artist (reality TV where Mystery teaches a bunch of guys to pick up girls). They constantly used corny lines like "I need a female opinion on _" Any girl who has seen the show is going to respond with "OMG are you one of those pick-up guys?" if she hears a similar line (if she really likes you then she'll igno…

You don't believe that a sufficiently intelligent computer system can coordinate to reduce overuse of lines? I.e., deliver line X to 10,000 geographically separated people? As for dating/pickup, I don't believe it's zero sum. It's not a competition for a fixed set of prizes, i.e. 5 girls at the bar, all of whom will go home with someone. f she really likes you then she'll ignore it and pretend to play along, but then…

"You don't believe that a sufficiently intelligent computer system can coordinate to reduce overuse of lines? I.e., deliver line X to 10,000 geographically separated people?"

Pickup tricks are like financial arbitrage. Once enough people learn about what works and do it, it stops working.

I'm not saying that this idea won't make money (like I said, Mystery seems to have done well for himself selling advice), I'm saying it likely won't accomplish its stated goal of getting you laid more often by giving you the "winning" pick-up lines. Any effect is more likely than not going to come through playing the numbers game.

"As for dating/pickup, I don't believe it's zero sum. It's not a competition for a fixed set of prizes, i.e. 5 girls at the bar, all of whom will go home with someone."

It is in that no one wants to make a bad choice. People (at least girls) would rather not sleep with anyone than sleep with someone who is relatively less attractive than the possible alternatives. It's the paradox of choice.

"I have it on good authority (read: "spreadsheet pickup guy", who's name I'm hiding for obvious reasons) that this is false, and conversion rates can vary 20-30% (sometimes more) based on approach and profile."

Obviously there are some things you can do that will turn a girl off less than others. But how does that negate my point? Girls will sleep with guys they think are hot even if they don't think those guys are particularly intelligent or humorous.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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post #172
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Thanks for the advice, I'll try that instead :)

Out of interest, are you on Twitter? I found your above post pretty insightful, like that you work on a whole bunch of stuff - I'd like to add you my list of cool people who hack Python and keep in touch.

Sure! twitter/blhack (although I don't really twitter much)

Thank you for the kind words :)

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From what I can tell old dinosaurs like Match.com continue to dominate this field. OkCupid was the last site I heard of that people found unique in approach, but even that was mostly used for the fun tests and quizzes rather than dating.

I'm shocked that OkCupid hasn't been more in the discussion here. It's one of the sections on the OP's list. OkCupid not only found traction, but success in a vertical long thought dead. I have absolutely no doubt that something else will come along and do the same The idea that just because a category has competitors means it's "dead" is quite wrong on a lot of levels. That's the beauty of the internet really. New i…

Dozens of major dating sites have launched post-okcupid.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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post #40

I hope I don't come across as negative here, but I hate lists like this. Peopel are always raining on each others' ideas "Oh, what, you're going to make a myspace clone? Bahahahaha." (facebook) "Oh, what, you're going to make a facebook clone? Bahahahaha." (twitter) "Oh, what, you're going to make another dating website? Bahahahaha." (Okcupid, plentyoffish) "Oh, what, you're going to make another social bookmarking w…

Like others have said, life is too short to work on bad ideas. This list isn't saying that these ideas are necessarily bad, but that they're too common. So you should think about what makes your idea sub-variant different enough; if you can't, that's a sign your idea may be bad.

Frankly I wish more people would say 'your idea is bad (because of X)' because that's useful feedback, rather than the usual feels-good-but-useless 'good idea'. You can always choose to disagree with X; or maybe you'll find a solution for X.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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I was honestly expecting to see something about a bar revolving around gaming. I've heard it proposed by at least 4 seperate nerd friends.

http://manabar.com/ (Zero Punctuation guy)

I know you don't really think that's the website for his bar.

Re: Startup Ideas Every Nerd Has (That Never Work)

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post #176
post #32

is anyone still trying to innovate in the online dating arena? i thought okcupid has had it pretty much locked for a while.

Anyone tried a dating site that works more like a deal-a-day site? I've had that on my list for a while. Figured that if you give people 100+ prospective partners, they will hunt for the best (who might be out of their league) and get nowhere. If you show them one at a time, they might make a "would I go on a date with this person" choice. HotOrNot tries throwing people at you in a sequence, but do you really make a…

Could work. Okcupid actually offers this feature.

On the other hand if the person is picky enough, they'll just be rejecting everyone they see and give up on the site after a few days.

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