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Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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Andrew Yang seems like a nice guy with a cool UBI proposal, but his blowing up on Twitter has a lot to do with 8chan forcing 'YangGang' memes which began about 6 weeks ago. It would be unwise to view this like a true market signal.

YangGang is his own PR. It's nothing to do with 8chan. UBI, of course, appeals to alt-right.

Who wouldn't want to get $1000 a month? Would you? of course you do...

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't seen this "run govt like a business" idea outside the U.S (or maybe I just missed it). Biz and govt are two separate things, I don't understand how one can be run like the other. Sure, there are some overlaps, but thats about it. Can someone explain?

Capitalism is our religion. It’s so much a part of our culture (identity), people aren’t aware of it.

People that are heavily corrupted respond to criticism of neoliberalism/capitalism the same way fundamentalists respond to heresy.

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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There is a reason that Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in America, and that is because his policy presents meaningful gains to the working class that perform all of society's labour, and without which everyone would immediately die. Working class people are, on the whole, shifting from supporting capitalism to supporting socialism.

how are they meaningful? Job "guarantee" is meaningful? Free college is meaningful?

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

#184
Andrew Yang is an Accelerationist.

His Universal Basic Income proposal is the most interesting thing in politics in a long time. It is actually feasible and will get us on the track to post-capitalism.

You are an American? You are a citizen? You get a thousand bucks a month. Funded by 10% VAT.

The freedom dividend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTkhrosH8xw

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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I really like Buttigieg. He honestly seems to be doing this because he wants to serve America. I’m working my way through his book and I’m very impressed by his eloquence and clarity of thought. Also, I think as a mayor he embodies the entrepreneurial spirit. He was classmates with Mark Zuckerberg. I submitted this interview the other day: http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/a-long-talk-with-demo... I think it’s a…

I was impressed with him on Vox's The Weeds: https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/28/18283925/p...

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

#186

I don't know if this applies to BetChecker, but PredictIt is heavily handicapped by an $850 max bet. Without the freedom for real amounts of money to come in and exploit mispriced bets, it's practically a straw poll of PredictIt users. The PredictIt user base has some obvious demographic biases that warp the odds.

Some of Bovada's odds are currently: Trump: +175 Biden: +650 Beto: +900 Yang: +2200 Buttigieg: +2800 Warren: +3000 Klobuchar/Booker: +3300 Hillary: +10000 The Rock: +12500 Jeb: +15000 (payout for a $100 bet)

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Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, didn't we just elect another business person and see where we are. Like it or not, we need politicians who can work across the aisle and actually get things done.

A booming economy with low inflation and low unemployment?

That's more thanks to the Fed than anything else, though their role is also pretty small. The truth is the president doesn't have the ability to affect the economy very much one way or the other.

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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I've been following how Buttigieg's rise has been manufactured by 1-2 insiders. Mainly David Axelrod. He did a SXSW town hall. I watched Tulsi Gabbard (disclosure, I volunteer for her a bit) first and then tried to watch Mayor Pete, as he is called. He basically bombed the first 20 min. The period that any viewers would try to give the candidate any chance to better understand them. He was just a bit too nervous, he…

Hm, if a journalist is going to describe something as a "much lauded performance," I'd expect her sources to be people lauding the performance, not her own judgment of the performance itself. It is weird if she hasn't seen it herself (so she can judge whether the lauds are sensible enough to pay attention to, to avoid manufactured lauding as you suggest) but it isn't that weird if her primary evidence for the claim t…

If it was based on one article, which in turn was based on one tweet, then no, I wouldn't expect her to report that it was a "much lauded performance." And ten articles also based on the same self-serving tweet wouldn't make it any better. At some point, she would need to talk to people that were actually there, whether she was or not.

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

#189

I've been following how Buttigieg's rise has been manufactured by 1-2 insiders. Mainly David Axelrod. He did a SXSW town hall. I watched Tulsi Gabbard (disclosure, I volunteer for her a bit) first and then tried to watch Mayor Pete, as he is called. He basically bombed the first 20 min. The period that any viewers would try to give the candidate any chance to better understand them. He was just a bit too nervous, he…

I got a similar impression from his Pod Save America interview. The issue he lead with in his first 15 minutes was how he would restructure the supreme court to be 10 judges or something. Not health care, climate change, or the economy. If the host hadn't introduced him as a presidential candidate I would have thought he was some professor that they brought on the podcast. To even begin to be successful in 2020 he's…

That was a 1:1 interview, not him speaking to an audience. Here he is in S.C. in front of an audience:

https://youtu.be/_Q9-XiEbf90

Here’s a 2 minute clip of you just want the inspirational part:

https://youtu.be/ySiLKUqcztw

His standard speech starts with explaining why you should vote for a 37 y/o mayor, followed by his “freedom, democracy, security” bit. He almost always talks about the environment very early. I imagine on that podcast he only mentioned SCOTUS because he was specifically asked about it and it’s probably likely to be one of his most controversial proposals (the idea isn’t his though, he credits it properly but I don’t recall to whom).

Re: Andrew Yang and Pete Buttigieg Have Blown Up on Twitter, and in Betting Markets

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This only shows why running we now have 20 candidates running for president. They get a huge platform to expand their reach (good for both the issues they care about and their personal brand) with almost no downside (even if not pilfering their campaign funds they will raise enough money to travel the country effectively promoting for future book sales or a tv show).

A low barrier to entry is arguably a good thing.

I agree in large part but I do think it is interesting. Running a campaign reminds me of The Producers - it is just as good to have a failure of a campaign as a winning one.
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