A while ago, some posts on HN went around saying that you shouldn't use third-world TLDs for your startup because some of them are unreliable stewards who would put your domain at risk. Does registering a .dev domain make you dependent on Google in the same way that registering a .ly makes you dependent on Libya?
Google .dev domain early access
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Re: Google .dev domain early access
#182This "early-access" price which decreases over time is an approximation of a Dutch auction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_auction Dutch auctions are incentive-compatible - they allocate the resource to the person that gains the highest utility for having it. Maybe Google got some of the people working on ads auctions to design this pricing structure.
Google has a long history with the Dutch auction, they used it in their IPO, back in '04.
I remember people calling that a bit of a fiasco... was there anything theoretically wrong with the application of a Dutch auction for that purpose, or was it just that the underwriting community and their clients had every reason to make the situation look bad?
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#183Pretty sure the first domains acquired will be targeted at local development setups, like tmp.dev, staging.dev, production.dev, etc. etc. edit: just a reminder that .local is the reserved one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local
I've been collecting country level three character long domains and using them. I suggest everyone does the same.
What do you use them for? Do you have any examples?
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#184I reserved unix.dev for the regular domain reservation price, not the crazy "premium domain" price because unix.dev was not part of the premium domain list. However, Google determined that no, unix.dev should be a premium domain, and "stole" the reservation from me (after I have already paid for it). They later added it to the premium domain list, and they asked me for $11k to keep the reservation. TBH, I expected to…
And what were you going to do with unix.dev, if I may ask?
How is that relevant? Could be a porn site for all I care.
It is fair to claim it legally under copyright etc like the OP mentioned, but otherwise, he paid for it and gets to do whatever with it.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
According to registrars, yes. So for example, let's say I paid $1000 for a premium .app last year when they were released. Renewal price is marked for something like $280/yr, which I didn't expect, because I thought the premium pricing was an initial purchase price only. I thought the renewal price was standard .app renewal rates. When I called to clarify with a few registrars, they said that this premium price ($280…
Yikes! My one was and still is $63.70/year. I wonder what makes a domain "premium" anyway, and what makes it more or less premium? Never even seen a live .app domain anyway so that sort of makes them not premium at all.
One criteria I've seen used to price domains as "premium" is shorter names and popular dictionary words. Not sure if this is consistent across registrars, but I would think "premium-ness" is established at the registry level.
It's unclear to me if premium-ness is a function of time, and/or if there's an objective formulaic criteria here.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#186Now, I get it why they forced us to use .test or .local.
Well planned.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#187I reserved unix.dev for the regular domain reservation price, not the crazy "premium domain" price because unix.dev was not part of the premium domain list. However, Google determined that no, unix.dev should be a premium domain, and "stole" the reservation from me (after I have already paid for it). They later added it to the premium domain list, and they asked me for $11k to keep the reservation. TBH, I expected to…
And what were you going to do with unix.dev, if I may ask?
What does it have to do with what Google did? Fishing for pre-crime to justify it?
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
.local is reserved for multicast DNS/zeroconf, by the standard. You literally can’t use it on macos because it will always try to look it up in with mDNS first, and only fall back on /etc/hosts once that fails. If you use .local for fake DNS for a dev setup, you’ll probably notice lookups are slow; that’s why. (This is why I’ve always used .dev actually, although this may make me switch to .fuckgoogle or something in…
> (This is why I’ve always used .dev actually, although this may make me switch to .fuckgoogle or something instead) Why not .fuckapple? Really, .local is defined for local address, if Apple is using it in a fucked up way this is an Apple problem. .dev was never destined for local address, it was just because it wasn't registered in ICANN yet.
Apple is adhering to the standard in RFC 6762. .local is intentionally meant for multicast DNS, Apple is doing things correctly.
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#189A while ago, some posts on HN went around saying that you shouldn't use third-world TLDs for your startup because some of them are unreliable stewards who would put your domain at risk. Does registering a .dev domain make you dependent on Google in the same way that registering a .ly makes you dependent on Libya?
It’s a good question. Does anyone know who legally owns the domain and what responsibility google has to ensure you can use the TLD in perpetuity?
Re: Google .dev domain early access
#190,,.dev lets your clients know what you do before they even open your site.'' I hate the new trend of companies having multiple domains with different TLDs, as I never know this way if it's the same company or not.
I'm in favour of this trend for this very reason. One should never implicitly assume you know it's the company you expect in any case.
That’s a bit of a stretch, not? If I visit dev.somesite.com, I can reasonably assume it belongs to the same owner as somesite.com. The same can not be said about somesite.dev.