Apple blocks Google from running its internal iOS apps

Post by saagarjha » Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

hnnh44 wrote: post #104

cptskippy wrote: post #26

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With Apple's devices, and to a lesser extent Google's, there isn't a software distribution channel apart from the one sanctioned from up high. That being said, the official channels are sanctioned and sponsored by Apple (or Google) and so it is their reputation on the line when it comes to malicious or questionable Apps. So I can completely understand Apple (or Google) removing certs or banning companies for violatin…

I disagree with your argument as a whole. My device is little more to me than something to run a web browser. I despise native apps. Facebook and Googles apps can - and should IMO - be run from a browser without crossing over into my personal contacts and photos. Apple has zero authority over who I contact or what content I access over the web. With any luck, this drives development back towards the web. I haven't ha…

Post by Spooky23 » Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

gwbas1c wrote: post #115

askafriend wrote: post #43

Let’s say you’re using a Google API like Maps, and you violate terms by snapshotting sections of their maps and storing them on your severs so you can serve static maps without making API calls. They’d shut down your API access immediately Google and Facebook both knew the terms. They both knew that the Enterprise Distribution Program was for internal use only. They still put ads out in the wild to recruit regular co…

Is it really clear? Are the people they were paying technically Google and Facebook employees / contractors?

Post by hellofunk » Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

matwood wrote: post #123

_bxg1 wrote: post #3

I feel less vengeful satisfaction from this one, but I respect that they're applying their rules consistently. I just hope it doesn't backfire. On a totally personal level, I'd rather Facebook feel the hurt for its audacity than Apple be forced to backtrack because they made too many enemies.

> I respect that they're applying their rules consistently. Not really. If any lone developer/small company did this, Apple would have banned the whole developer account.

Post by ori_b » Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 10:21 PM UTC

gigatexal wrote: post #137

nostrademons wrote: post #110

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Android has 85% of the worldwide smartphone market. Apple doesn't exactly have the upper hand in the relationship, but they have enough leverage to make it sting if they decide not to cooperate and to force a reasonable settlement. In my mind, a reasonable settlement includes not installing spyware on users' iPhones through the enterprise development program, so it looks like they're doing precisely that.

Something like 90%+ of the profit from smartphones goes to Apple — if that’s not the upper hand then I don’t know what is. Apple makes profit. Google has a legion of devices with incentives to keep insecure so they can monitor and harvest the data to both serve and sell ads.

Post by paxy » Thu, Jan 31, 2019, 10:22 PM UTC

rootusrootus wrote: post #39

Skunkleton wrote: post #16

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That is true only in the most technical of senses. Practically, Apple has near complete control over what is allowed to execute on an iOS device.

Excluding technical users, Google Play Services is the same. And their grip only tightens over time.