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U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers

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Haha. So silly. Now all these folks have to do is bribe colleges in India to give them fake transcripts and diplomas. Half of the h1bs from India already have fake masters or at best masters from low graded crap colleges. The Indian consulting firms throw so many shitty developers at us and it sucks because we drown in resumes and no choice because my company won’t go higher on rates so we can’t afford good developers. These h1bs are as good as entry level sophomores in US colleges.

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We have seasons and we also have scale. Might lose some green leafy things, but not the real stuff like wheat, sorghum, corn, soy, rice, etc. Some of these leafy green things are gonna get automated anyway.

So, you don't care about California farmers or dairy farmers then.

Dairy is pretty automated, farming is getting more and more automated. But, we will be helping many low skills Americans who now get undersold in the labor market. Other advanced economies manage the cost of labor in agribiz, we can too.

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>just because "immigrants lower wages" is "common knowledge" doesn't make it true. [1] From your own cite: >Immigrant workers can either be substitutes for native-born workers or complements to them. When immigrant workers are substitutes for native-born workers, they compete for similar jobs. Using a simple supply and demand model, an influx of substitutable workers constitutes an increase in the supply of labor, ca…

That's the section where they acknowledge that, yes, people lose jobs to immigrants. They go on to say that actually more people gain jobs at higher wages because of immigrants. There's a section on high tech jobs to read too, take a look. Most people believe that immigrants generally lower wages and take jobs. They almost never do. Economists who have done hundreds of studies on different wage markets have found tha…

Do you have a source on these studies you are saying talk about how immigration increases wages.

It's the general understanding that increase imigration would lower wages for those towards the bottom of the pay band for any given profession. It may result in increased pay for those at the top of the industry should increased software development induce demand for more software development, but that's not something we know to be the case over the next 40 years.

In many different marketplaces, increasing supply reduces it's cost even should there be an exact increase in demand for the given need. I.e. software development leads to there being an increased demand for more software development.

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> Personally, I think the more diverse groups have an opportunity to come to America legally, the better. Is this supported by data? If it isn't, this is just thinly veiled parroting of propaganda. I'm not against any color but blindly saying a star trek bar is better than a more homogeneous bar is just parroting

There’s a huge difference between stating my personal opinion and making factual claims. My opinion is that more diversity is good and makes the world better. Also: > I’m not against any color but... lol.

Personal opinion- I think homogeneous societies cooperate much better and I personally believe that so-called forced diversity of racial backgrounds is an effort to lower the camaraderie in a team and keep the loyalty to the firm and not the team members and thus bringing down wages by competition.

I am all for diversity of ideas and background. Something which would make a companies more productive at the same wage.

I also believe that no race is superior to another- everybody has different goals. And so long as one doens't try and interfere in another's society, the world would be a very smooth place.

Re: U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers

#185

As an immigrant myself, I welcome this move. Please note that this change impacts issuance of fresh H1Bs and does not relate to or assist/impact existing H1B holders in any way. Against common misconception, it's important to know that H1B also compete for an open job requisition like everyone else. Sadly, H1Bs are eligible to apply only for a small percentage of the open requisitions which often read - only W2 need…

They live in fear because most of them are garbage. They produce garbage and make others lives miserable. And the ones that actually worked hard can’t afford to even get a job because h1bs take such a low pay

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> Why is this? This sounds like a huge U.S. talent development problem. How does this visa change help to fix this issue? It doesn’t, I’m against it. > The very fact that the number of employed software engineers is expected to go up by 24% in a single year is the evidence you're looking for that there is a massive supply distortion in the labor market. Yes... because the demand for software engineers is increasing e…

>and can’t keep up with supply. yes... the very definition of a labor distortion that drives down wages .

I feel like we can’t be reading the same thing. You’re saying that a market where there is more demand than supply is one where prices are lower? Again, I’m going to need a citation for that.

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I've worked with a few H1-B holders in Silicon Valley and they're awesome. A great improvement would be to allow H1B holders to change jobs easily (maybe after a year). It's too easy for them to get stuck in not great situations. It would be great for everyone if they could move to better fitting jobs, especially for startups who have trouble running H1-B programs. If you are, like me, a software engineer, you should…

Pure ideology.

Re: U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers

#188

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Software engineering isn’t most professions. Salaries have been going up more than a decade accounting for inflation. If 10 million software engineers dropped in Silicon Valley, a lot of things would happen (for one there’s nowhere for them to live). But that’s not what’s happening.

It was hyperbole to show the effect of supply and demand More and more I notice how similar software engineers are beginning to sound like the "Made in America" factory workers who said China could never do their job. Never take the present comfy situation for granted

Indeed. An argument could be made that given the astronomical living costs of Silicon Valley, the wages should have already been higher given how much profits the companies are making.

Re: U.S. Changes Visa Process for High-Skilled Workers

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Parents can later leverage the citizenship of their progeny to gain theirs.

27 years later.

I don’t follow. Parents who are on H1B can leverage their wards citizenship by birth to get their own citizenship by naturalization.

And by no stretch of imagination do they need to wait for 27 long years!

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