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Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by magicalhippo »

metalliqaz wrote: post #65
jchw wrote: post #17

Ouch, I understand why they want to not have a blocking webRequest API but I consider uBlock Origin to be a must-have extension. Hopefully this is relaxed somehow. I personally still use Firefox at home despite recent issues, but I honestly would prefer having both as an option, plus I always recommend uBlock Origin to everyone. (Disclaimer: I work at Google but not on Chrome, opinions are mine and not my employer's.…

Have there been recent issues? I've been using Firefox consistently for years and lately it seems better than usual.

It's quite memory hungry. Not saying leaking per-se, but my 16GB machine at work started swapping heavily mostly due to Firefox today.

Only had about 15 active tabs (though a number of dormant ones since last FF restart). Between the various processes, FF was using about 6-7GB of memory. Closing almost all of the tabs reclaimed about 2GB, so still a lot left over.

That said I'm not too bothered, I can restart FF every other week or so.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by dictum »

sridca wrote: post #159
sixothree wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

I'm invested in the Google ecosystem, and have recently got myself a Pixel Slate that I carry everywhere as my primary computing/ media device (no more separate laptop and tablet). It would now be silly of me to use Firefox in place of Chrome. Moreover I have got nothing to hide, so all these privacy-fears don't concern me; in fact I often feel like they are being overblown.

> Moreover I have got nothing to hide

Don't mean to insult you, and some people just have an easier time opening up about everything, but a life with nothing whatsoever to hide sounds limited, uninventive and uninteresting.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by metalliqaz »

dragonwriter wrote: post #114

The design doc — the part quoted in the note linked here even — explicitly notes that it will probably be required to retain some degree of the existing functionality slated for eventually removal until the new API and other replacements cover all use cases; the response linked here appears to (not improperly, in the context of making a case for why much of the functionality is needed) ignoring that and treating the…

But the design document only mentions retaining the old API for features that aren't possible with the new API, such as onAuthRequired. So it would still cripple uBlock

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by blibble »

greymeister wrote: post #23

... and yet another downside to Microsoft moving to Chromium.

presumably they are capable of putting in the engineering work to restore the old feature

then they'd be able to sell their browser as having ad blocking when chrome doesn't

the market would take care of the rest

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by drawkbox »

sixothree wrote: post #33
metalliqaz wrote: post #4

Another reason to be glad that Firefox is still standing.

I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

> I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities.

Chrome used to be very lightweight, fast and basically unseated IE as the top browser. It got that love because at the time Firefox was bloated and IE had a stranglehold. Chrome was also safer with a process per tab. Chrome made web browsing/dev pleasant like Firefox/Firebug did and it really took off being based on Webkit like Safari which also worked well on mobile. Chrome (and Safari) or Webkit pushed HTML5/Canvas/WebGL/SVG into real world use which changed the landscape of browsers.

Nowadays Chrome is bloated like Firefox was, has a stranglehold like IE did, is now pushing its own market standards and breaking existing open/market standards and generally being a forceful, non respecting to standards, web browser. It sure is unfortunate and another sign that bizdev/marketing/executives rule over engineers at Google now.

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by SimeVidas »

sridca wrote: post #159
sixothree wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

I'm invested in the Google ecosystem, and have recently got myself a Pixel Slate that I carry everywhere as my primary computing/ media device (no more separate laptop and tablet). It would now be silly of me to use Firefox in place of Chrome. Moreover I have got nothing to hide, so all these privacy-fears don't concern me; in fact I often feel like they are being overblown.

> It would now be silly of me to use Firefox in place of Chrome.

Why? In what ways is Chrome more useful than Firefox on Chrome OS?

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by decebalus1 »

techntoke wrote: post #137
decebalus1 wrote: post #51

I'm very happy about this change. Hopefully Firefox would gain a plethora of new users.

Mozilla is really no better than Google... in fact Chromium on my Linux distro vastly outperforms Firefox.

What does performance on a Linux distro has anything to do with Mozilla being better/not better than Google?

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by criddell »

QML wrote: post #112
sixothree wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really just don't understand the obsession with Chrome, especially in hacker communities. Sorry Google, I feel "icky & gross" when I use you.

Firefox just doesn’t have enough advantages yet that would convince someone comfortable with Chrome to switch over. While privacy is an ever growing concern, it isn’t a strong enough feature for most people.

Plus Chrome just works better for a lot of sites. That might be because the site isn't properly coded, but users don't care. They just want something that works and more often than not, that's Chrome.

My main browser is Firefox, but I have to switch over to Chrome more often than I would like. Electron is also based on Chromium, isn't it? IMHO, the rise of Electron just reinforces Chromium's status and I think Microsoft is going to accelerate that trend (I'm guessing MS adopted Chromium because of Electron).

Re: Google proposes changes to Chromium which would disable uBlock Origin

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Post by vertexFarm »

saagarjha wrote: post #143
OptionX wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trading Google overlords for Apple overlords does not seem like an upgrade.

That's totally fine, but it's still disingenuous to claim that Firefox is the only other browser out there.

Chrome------------------64.15%

Internet Explorer--------10.83%

Firefox-------------------9.89%

Edge---------------------4.30%

Safari--------------------3.80%

Opera--------------------1.58%

Safari will survive since Apple is their patron. Obviously Internet Explorer is only a lumbering undead husk at this point, and it's pretty shameful that it's still outgunning Firefox by a small amount. Even more sad that it's got over twice as many users as Edge, lol.

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