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South Koreans lock themselves up to escape prison of daily life

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Re: South Koreans lock themselves up to escape prison of daily life

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Post by AsyncAwait »

xfitm3 wrote: post #174
AsyncAwait wrote: post #159

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I have several major news apps on my phone and what I've found is that they're all reporting the same story, with very similar biases, within minutes of each other. They all seem to drink from the same fountain. You'd basically need to know what biases which outlets have to what stories and apply a filter accordingly, which can be extremely time consuming.

What about the AP? They seem to be rooted in factual reporting.

With the AP, it depends heavily on the thing they're covering. Often times they try to give every side and are indeed pretty good, but then I noticed that i.e. when it comes to Palestine, they often run headlines like "Palestinians dead in Gaza", which implies that some Palestinians just dropped dead, while in reality the headline should have been "Israel shoots Palestinians in Gaza" or similar.

They even did this when their own reporter, who was clearly marked PRESS was shot.

Here's the story as reported by the AP[1], notice the headline: "AP cameraman shot during Gaza protest", no mention of Israel and might even give the impression that Gazans shot him.

The vast majority of people only skim the headlines and AP knows this, so this is hardly an accident.

1 - https://www.apnews.com/65bd5c31690342b886ab5b8f72b37e53

Re: South Koreans lock themselves up to escape prison of daily life

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Post by newyankee »

briandear wrote: post #101
eartheaterrr wrote: post #88

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This seems to be a cheaper, ascetic equivalent, of the classic meditation retreat, which is already popular in both the East and West. Marketing it as a prison puts a quirky twist on it. This makes for an interesting article, which also fits Western stereotypes.

Except the bureau chief of Reuters is a Korean, and not a person prone to sending stereotypes over the wire.

you will be surprised. I know many self-hating Indians who would happily denigrate the country and reinforce stereotypes, especially journalists.

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Post by cafard »

kbumsik wrote: post #131
calvinbhai wrote: post #29

Question for South Koreans here: Is this real or is this report just the usual exaggeration by western media? Asking because Reuter’s has a biased reporting for anything related to India, and I’m wondering if they have a similar lens / filter for South Korea. (I’m from India in US)

Buddhism-based meditation tours are quite popular in Korea. Many Korean temples offers "Temple stay" [1] program which is pretty much the same as the jail: locking themselves up in the temple to escape from the city life for a cople of days. The jail in the article seems to be a slightly exaggerated form of templestay. The motivation behind it is pretty accurate tho. Of course not everyone want this, and it is Buddhi…

In America, there are Catholic retreats, some at retreat centers, some at monasteries or convents, some elsewhere; I assume that other Christian denominations have retreats, but don't know and have never enquired.

For that matter, the writer Patrick Leigh Fermor, who was not Catholic, wrote about going to stay for a short period at the Benedictine abbey of St. Wandrille, mostly to get away from distractions. You can find the account in https://www.nyrb.com/products/a-time-to-keep-silence.

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Post by cpncrunch »

gonesilent wrote: post #95
cpncrunch wrote: post #58

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Why not just book a relaxing airbnb?

Why go to a gym, when you can CrossFit with random street trash?

I'm not sure what your point is, but I certainly wouldn't compare airbnb to "random street trash". The quality does vary, but if you're careful you can get amazing places.

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Post by krageon »

ryanmercer wrote: post #170
thatfrenchguy wrote: post #100

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Which is not a lot of vacation and way too much work.

>Which is not a lot of vacation and way too much work. Um, the average American worker gets 10 days of vacation a year and many get far less than that. Many many many Americans work holidays too, I just worked my 13th Thanksgiving in a row.

You're responding to someone saying "this is too much work" by saying you work holidays too (and that this is apparently normal). You've succeeded in making it seem like you work too much as well, but not in making it seem like not too much.

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Post by ako »

w1nt3rmu4e wrote: post #146
mikekchar wrote: post #85

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Reuters also has a history of bad reporting wrt Japan, at least as far as I'm concerned. They often translate things incorrectly and lead with conclusions based on that mistranslation. They are not the only ones on my "usually biased news" list, though. The Japan Times often picks up stories from the Yomiuri Shinbun, which are questionable in nature and translates them. These are then often picked up by the BBC. What…

I've seen some truly awful journalism from Reuters. Articles that were so agenda driven as to almost laughably gloss over facts in order to present the desired narrative. (Laughable if reputations and money weren't on the line.) I've called some of the offending journalists out on social media, which I encourage everyone to do.

This is what happens if we all want to consume news for free, cost of gathering news also has to go to zero...

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Post by forkLding »

Domenic_S wrote: post #16
forkLding wrote: post #8

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Can I know how you got that number? Presuming you work 37.5 hours per week which should be the minimum fulltime labor amount at 5 days times 7.5 hours per week. 2080 divided by 37.5 is about 55 weeks, while there is only 52 weeks in a year. If you count it as 40 hrs per week then it is 52 weeks but people usually don't count the extra half hour which is usually a break but that could be your number. This is probably…

> 7.5 hours per [day] How did you get that? When I was an hourly employee, my shifts were 8.5/9 hours clock-in to clock-out, to allow for a 30 minute or 1 hour lunch break.

My sources based on govt handbooks, note parent poster who I'm replying to said minimum amount of hrs per week, which is why I put down the minimum amount, I'm not looking for maximum or average but minimum because OP said minimum:

https://my.hr.gov.nt.ca/handbooks-agreements/excluded-employ...

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Post by forkLding »

ryanmercer wrote: post #169
forkLding wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I know how you got that number? Presuming you work 37.5 hours per week which should be the minimum fulltime labor amount at 5 days times 7.5 hours per week. 2080 divided by 37.5 is about 55 weeks, while there is only 52 weeks in a year. If you count it as 40 hrs per week then it is 52 weeks but people usually don't count the extra half hour which is usually a break but that could be your number. This is probably…

>Can I know how you got that number? Presuming you work 37.5 hours per week I've never had a non-retail job with paid breaks. I work 40 hours a week, minimum, with my 30 minute lunch off the clock.

My sources based on govt handbooks, note parent poster to whom I'm replying to said minimum amount of hrs per week, which is why I put down the minimum amount:

https://my.hr.gov.nt.ca/handbooks-agreements/excluded-employ...

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Post by calvinbhai »

AsyncAwait wrote: post #181
xfitm3 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What about the AP? They seem to be rooted in factual reporting.

With the AP, it depends heavily on the thing they're covering. Often times they try to give every side and are indeed pretty good, but then I noticed that i.e. when it comes to Palestine, they often run headlines like "Palestinians dead in Gaza", which implies that some Palestinians just dropped dead, while in reality the headline should have been "Israel shoots Palestinians in Gaza" or similar. They even did this wh…

Serious question: How is it possible for AP reporter to know the nationality of the shooter? To be honest "AP cameraman shot during Gaza protest" is a more accurate and correct reporting by the reporter. Isn't it?

I have no bias in this conflict, I'm neither pro/anti palestenians/israelis, because I just cant wrap my head around it, and I refuse to believe what any major news media tries to feed people about this conflict.

If all of AP reports are this unbiased, then probably I'll have to start subscribing to them.

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