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Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

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post #71

DuckDuckGo's killer feature to me is that I can always depend on it to be in English. Google annoyingly always changes the language based on the location of the IP address you're connecting from. It's very annoying when traveling.

you can always get www.google.com/ncr

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#182

I have been using DDG for about a year now, although I had tried using it years ago. It works fine for simple queries( e.g. search name of company rather than typing out url). But I basically have !g programmed into my fingers for everything more complicated. Many times when I don't find the results I am looking for, I subconsciously assume that google would be able to find them. This is in comparison to when I canno…

Interesting, I actually find that I use !g less and less and when I do I often don't get what I'm looking for either (probably because I'm not searching for the right thing in the first place). On top of that I vastly prefer ddg's very simple and terse output compared to Google's many widgets displaying all kinds of content inline and wasting monitor real estate.

>Side note, if they get bought out by a big player, I will feel like my use of them for the last year has been for naught.

I completely agree and at this point it's my main issue with DDG. I don't think their business model is sustainable, if they ever make it big the pressure to make more money will eventually corrupt their noble goals. After all Do No Evil used to be a thing at Google too and we see how that turned out.

I'd gladly pay a subscription to a good search engine to remove the need for ads and align the business model to the privacy goals, however I'm probably in a small minority here.

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#183

I find that DDG is good for about 80% of what I want. But the other 20%, especially dev queries, I muscle memory type in !g. Is there a bang for the type of query answer we are looking for? Such as for 'Ruby gems' I can use !dev so the engine knows to ignore sites like Ruby Gemstone and focus on dev only. I know there is !so and !gh, but I am looking for something that dynamically combines them and other dev resource…

What is !so and !gh? Can I use them on google?

Type ! in DDG and press down. You will see a list of accepted keywords. Those two search stackoverflow and github.

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#184

I have been using DDG for about a year now, although I had tried using it years ago. It works fine for simple queries( e.g. search name of company rather than typing out url). But I basically have !g programmed into my fingers for everything more complicated. Many times when I don't find the results I am looking for, I subconsciously assume that google would be able to find them. This is in comparison to when I canno…

I find that Google is actually losing ground as the all-seeing-eye-reference-objective-truth due to the increasingly tailored searches. I can no longer refer to a search query and expect a peer to see the same results as I do. This social bubble phenomenon, while no doubt convenient, is sometimes a burden, and with their stricter privacy policy DDG actually has some ground to gain here. Using DDG is more like tuning…

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Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#185

I find that DDG is good for about 80% of what I want. But the other 20%, especially dev queries, I muscle memory type in !g. Is there a bang for the type of query answer we are looking for? Such as for 'Ruby gems' I can use !dev so the engine knows to ignore sites like Ruby Gemstone and focus on dev only. I know there is !so and !gh, but I am looking for something that dynamically combines them and other dev resource…

This is a really good idea. A Dev search engine! I hope someone will run with the idea, after all this is a start-up forum :) A few months ago I was hacking some Java code (or a java DSL. Something I had never worked in before) and it had these bangs or at-marks in front of some keywords. It was nearly impossible to search for what it did, since all search engines would ignore those in my query.

I do not know if I want a dev search engine.

I just want a way to signal DDG to prefer dev websites over nondev. DDG doesn't bubble us so it doesn't know I only want dev sites with certain queries and we keep naming projects after common terms. (Ruby, Python)

Thus !dev would be a good idea.

I guess it could be a good idea for dev.duckduckgo.com or duckduckgo.com/bangdev to be an option in search drop down, but honestly how often do people select alternative searches vs typing it in or !g'ing it?

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#186
post #2

The article says that DDG was profitable since 2014. I wonder just how profitable it is, and how soon would it be able to return the investments. A high investment load means that a company strives for an exit. I won't like DDG to be bought by whatever party.

I interviewed with DuckDuckGo a few months ago and their founders, investors, and board are not looking for the quick payout. They are more intent at a self sustaining alternative to Google.

How could you know that from an interview? Of course they would say that

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google has been personalizing search results, and going way beyond just "link counts", for a while now. e.g: When I type "pandas" or "kafka", I get the Python library and the streaming framework. I don't get cute black and white animals and a depressed novelist (what the average person would expect).

On DDG I also get the Python library as first and Apache Kafka as second result.

Google search for Kafka consistently gives me Apache Kafka first. It frequently then gives me some clothing retailer I've never heard of in second place (but not always -- at least one time, this was totally absent), with no indication that it's a "sponsored" result or anything. The Wikipedia entry for Franz Kafka is in third place; everything else is Apache-related.

DDG gives me a decent mix of results about both Apache and Franz (not only the Wikipedia entry, a variety of books/articles/etc as well).

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#188

I find that DDG is good for about 80% of what I want. But the other 20%, especially dev queries, I muscle memory type in !g. Is there a bang for the type of query answer we are looking for? Such as for 'Ruby gems' I can use !dev so the engine knows to ignore sites like Ruby Gemstone and focus on dev only. I know there is !so and !gh, but I am looking for something that dynamically combines them and other dev resource…

Was searching for DDG contact. Found that there is a !dev bang, but all it does is search https://devdocs.io.

I am looking for something that I can signal to DDG to only/prefer dev sites.

If anyone is curious this is the site to look up your !bangs.

https://duckduckgo.com/bang?q=dev

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#189
post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you understand that DDG is a wrapper around bing right?

I don't think a "wrapper" is the right term. They aggregate results from multiple sources including their index which is built by their own spider. Also I don't see how that negates the fact that they are doing a fantastic job against a company that's is much bigger, more powerful, more experienced and with an incredibly larger budget.

Still they are a meta search engine mostly depend on bing. Have they ever shared how much of traffic they serve from each "source"? Never.

Re: DuckDuckGo Raises $10M

#190

DuckDuckGo claims to be all for privacy. What it doesn't tell users is that it is just a wrapper around Bing search results. The $10M they plan to spend is just going to increase search traffic to Bing.

Is this actually true?

My guess is that it is mostly bing, a few percentages for other sources. They never share the breakdown. It would spoil their magic I suppose.
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