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If any of this is at all interesting to you, I'd recommend checking out the very excellent ESPN documentary "Broke": http://www.espn.com/30for30/film?page=broke ESPN's 30 for 30 docs are really great, even if you're not particularly huge into sports. Broke is one of my favorites (after a "The Two Escobars"). It goes into a lot of detail about how ill-prepared many professional athletes are for the lifestyle, how they…

NPR had a story where an NBA player described his finances. He is basically on an allowance and money shows up in his checking account each week.

His advisor seemed like a good guy and talked about the dangers of family asking for money and hangers on. His advisor acted like the bad cop and actually did the rejections for requests and even introduced the player to other players who made good choices and could be a mentor/friend.

Outside the allowance if he wants a new car or vacation he calls the advisor and they tell him yes or no or later and help him get a good deal if yes.

He talked about having no financial clue early on and straight up didn't know the value of say $20k because he had never been exposed to dealing with money in that way.

He also talked about teammates blowing through their money like crazy and meanwhile he saves.

He did a stint in the NBA d league for rehab at one point and bought a not so great car (relative) because he thought having his usual car there would be embarrassing as it was quite a contrast relative to his d league teammates. Finally one of his teammates asked why he was driving that boring old car, so he had his car brought to the local city so his teammates could drive it ;)

Granted this guy has several houses, bought stuff for family and can spend like crazy on his allowance, but within some level of reason.

Dude was lucky he got a good advisor and was smart enough to listen.

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Maybe europeans are ruining it because (insert here giant US Corp) has been stealing tax revenue, and because the US gov is spying on europeans.

Your definition of stealing is a weird one. As far as I know (insert here giant US Corp) has always followed local tax laws. I think Europeans are just being bitches about the fact that they haven’t been able to replicate Silcon Valleys success (with noteable exceptions such as Spotify, Zendesk and others which ultimately also moved their HQs to the US though). Yes, the US spies on Europeans and everybody else, just…

There you have it. The motivation for this new legislation is to change those facts: correct tax "avoidance" and prevent powerful foreign corporations to spy and steal assets (i.e. news snippets).

It seems the US is very sensitive when nobody buys their cars, but sees absolutely no problem dominating modern comunications. The EU has a problem with that.

And my definition of stealing is a pretty standard one: both Apple and Google have been repeatedly fined using EU law for tax issues, for example.

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Actual libertarians rather than the confused type so popular in the US are all for it. Look at anarcho-syndacilists for example

Gatekeeping who is and isn't an "Actual libertarian"

Libertarianism was born as a left wing ideology in line with many anarchic ideologies. It is fully inclusive. Right wing Libertarianism is by definition a paradox. You can only partake if you have the capital resources, ie not fully inclusive at all. Collective bargaining is fully aligned with classical Libertarianism and is somehow shunned by right wing libertarians. You can see how i have come to the conclusion right wing libertarians are a confused bunch. Their ideas are inconsistent and incoherent.

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When I compare that to German health insurance, it comes out to an income of ~1600 EUR per month before taxes, but you pay more of if you earn more. Quite an interesting concept though that their rates don't seem to up no matter if you just get by or make millions...

Why should health insurance be progressive? I'd be willing to bet that healthcare costs scale sub-linearly with income, so why would a private insurer charge more to somebody who makes more money? In the case of a properly functioning public healthcare system, I totally buy and support it, though.

Good question, but I'm not opposed to this. I'd say the German health care system is mostly a good one, and I'm absolutely happy to pay a percentage of income. Sure, if they managed to have it running at a flat fee that doesn't disadvantage people with minimum wage jobs, I'd gladly pay less - although I think 10% is totally fair, especially when comparing it to the US system and people doing kickstarters for their cancer treatment...

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Gross income. I interviewed a potential business manager that was recommended by a few celebrity-actor types a few years back. The idea of someone taking financial responsibility off your plate full-stop was definitely intriguing, but I did the math about what that would cost vs. just a full time personal assistant and I couldn't justify it. He did immediately recommend a new bank for me which I had never heard about…

which bank was that?

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A long time ago, in a job (thankfully) far far away I had to have a fair bit of interaction with famous people. Some of them are crazy - one of the artists (now dead) demanded "more goat heads" on his project. This was an actual client request. I still do take pride in getting one of the most difficult clients in the roster to admit we did a "good job". Famous people can be weird, and some do really exist in their ow…

Wealth/power/fame don't change who people are, they just allow them to express it unconstrained. For fame and fortune as an artist, though, the chances of "making it" are so remote that the proportion of sober and rational people who choose to take the first steps down that path has to be rather low, and that of the ones that just keep going down the path even lower.

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Re: I Stop Celebrities from Blowing Their Money

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Why should health insurance be progressive? I'd be willing to bet that healthcare costs scale sub-linearly with income, so why would a private insurer charge more to somebody who makes more money? In the case of a properly functioning public healthcare system, I totally buy and support it, though.

Good question, but I'm not opposed to this. I'd say the German health care system is mostly a good one, and I'm absolutely happy to pay a percentage of income. Sure, if they managed to have it running at a flat fee that doesn't disadvantage people with minimum wage jobs, I'd gladly pay less - although I think 10% is totally fair, especially when comparing it to the US system and people doing kickstarters for their ca…

I actually agree with you, for a system run as a public service (which I think healthcare should be), I just don't see a workable justification for it under a private system.

The difference is, I think, in the word "insurance". If a USAn doesn't pay for health insurance, they have to pay for healthcare. I don't particularly know how Germany's system works, but I'd assume that non-payment of taxes, while it probably has other repercussions, does not preclude receiving healthcare.

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