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Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by dvtrn »

ReverseCold wrote: post #80
didgeoridoo wrote: post #3

Ironically, the thing that drove me to Firefox was the excellent Account Containers system that I found necessary to manage being logged into multiple Google Apps accounts simultaneously (I have five ). Each tab owns one account — that way, Google Drive files from my work don't randomly refuse to open because I'm also logged into my personal account. (Chrome has no solution for containing accounts across tabs, last I…

> Google Drive files from my work don't randomly refuse to open because I'm also logged into my personal account Ugh, this is a common problem apparently. Why can't they just make it open files from my org domain using the only org account I'm logged into. >:(

I spent about three hours trying to figure out why apps scripts were breaking and refusing to open the editor until finally finding a helpful blog post: logged into multiple accounts? You may have trouble with apps scripting-something I had come to rely on with Sheets.

I wouldn't call it 'infuriating', but it's something that I can't figure out "how does this of all things break this of all things?"

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by itsjloh »

tyteen4a03 wrote: post #15

When it stops being a battery hog on Macs, sure. On Android the performance is comparable to Chrome, but I can never get used to some of their UXes (pressing the X button doesn't clear the address bar, instead closes it). Also no seamless page opening with Google search app (although I suspect they can't do much about this)

I keep trying to switch back to it on my Mac Pro (I've tried three times in the last 12 months) but after a week or two I always end up switching back to Chrome because the CPU/battery impact it has.

I can have the same amount of tabs/workload in Chrome and my laptop copes fine with good performance. If I do the same in FF (with likely less plugins installed) it often spikes to 100% CPU usage, chews through my battery like nothing else and just gets bogged down/slow. I _want_ to use FF but can't sacrifice having a burning hot laptop with terrible battery life on my lap.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by Manishearth »

menacingly wrote: post #39
toomuchtodo wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are occasions where Google’s native multi account management falls flat.

Especially surrounding Drive. I don't envy them, it's tough to get right.

Support for multiple accounts in drive is pretty great (minor papercuts here and there) as long as all but one of your accounts is an Apps account. This feels like an issue that they've fixed but not rolled out.

Except this has been a problem for years, and according to a friend of mine who's had a "personal" Apps account from back when it was free, never has been a problem for Apps users, so I'm not sure what's going on on their end.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by z6 »

f311a wrote: post #6

I've switched to Firefox on most of my devices. And there is only one thing which I don't like — high CPU usage compared to chrome. It makes my old MacBook air very noisy because of the fan spinning. When I use chrome it's completely silent.

Same experience here on a MBP. Tried to switch a couple months ago and the fans run in overdrive.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by stockkid »

I use Firefox but I find the developer experience constantly lacking. Many times I have no choice but to switch to Chrome to carry out certain tasks.

For example, in the developer tools, you are not able to pick an element when the page is frozen using `debugger` command. Also there is no way to hijack a particular event and enter debug mode.

There are many things like these that make me constantly go back to Chrome while developing. Although small, they really add up. As much as I like and support Firefox, I do not think it is quite there with the same level as Chrome.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by _2d30 »

blt wrote: post #89
_2d30 wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially on YouTube where I believe there’s an issue with Firefox not using the most efficient encoding on the videos.

Do you have details? I noticed that Youtube on Firefox makes the fan spin up on my 2013 rMBP a lot. I currently use Firefox but as a heavy Youtube watcher this is a pretty big negative.

Yeah I’ll dig up he bugzilla link and add to this comment.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by mongol »

TillE wrote: post #144
ambicapter wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Turns out politics has an effect on people's lives, who knew?

It's utterly bizarre how so many people can view politics as if it were as value-neutral as supporting a football team, or as if it's all some high-minded abstract debate.

There is such a thing as respecting a differing opinion. I see more and more tendencies to view differing opinions as something that is simply not acceptable, even for opinions that have been ordinary just a short while back. That is bizarre to me.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by TACIXAT »

grundymonday wrote: post #153

I switched to Vivaldi a year or two ago after using Firefox as my main browser for the longest time. I've considered switching back, but every time I run up against several features in Vivaldi that I am just not ready to part with yet: 1) tab stacks, 2) the ability to save and reopen an entire session, 3) a page load progress indicator in the URL bar, 4) using Ctrl-F highlights the position of all matching locations…

I'm on Vivaldi right now and I love it. The window panel is so much nicer than tabs (for those that don't know, it's tabs along the side, kinda bookmark style). Tab stacks are amazing. The background downloading is nice where it starts the download while you decide to Save, Save As, or Open. There is a lot of little stuff too, like in the window panel you can select multiple tabs and copy the URLs. The closed tabs stack. Oh, and backspace still goes back a page.

I don't usually shill for products but Vivaldi is a really good browser.

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by mikedilger »

mikedilger wrote: post #155
fencepost wrote: post #85

I haven't seen anyone mention this, but Firefox is my "daily driver" for almost all browsing, and is also locked down with uMatrix, uBlock Origin, DecentralEyes and Ghostery (though I could probably drop Ghostery without missing it). Chrome has uBlock Origin and a few other things but interferes with pages less. I keep a set of pages for some specific web apps (e.g. GMail, Google Calendar, task management, etc.) open…

Is there a reason to use both uBlock Origin and uMatrix? I thought uMatrix was a more explicit version of the same functionality as uBlock Origin (and written by the same guy).

I dug into this myself just now. At it's core, uMatrix is "default deny" so it doesn't need all the blacklists. But there are things that uBlock Origin provides that uMatrix does not perhaps including cosmetic filtering, popup blocker, zapper/picker element, etc. The author Raymond Hill (gorhill) has switched back to uMatrix himself and dedicates more development efforts to it now.

https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/support-umatrix/5131/179

Re: Firefox is back. It's time to give it a try

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Post by yosito »

grundymonday wrote: post #153

I switched to Vivaldi a year or two ago after using Firefox as my main browser for the longest time. I've considered switching back, but every time I run up against several features in Vivaldi that I am just not ready to part with yet: 1) tab stacks, 2) the ability to save and reopen an entire session, 3) a page load progress indicator in the URL bar, 4) using Ctrl-F highlights the position of all matching locations…

I'm just now hearing about Vivaldi for the first time. I'm not sure how I never heard of it before.
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