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Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by jdeibele »

trevor-e wrote: post #131
syeaj wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious: what OS do you use and what sites are you visiting? I've had a stellar experience on Arch Linux. The RAM usage is down. I can't say I really ever found Chrome slow, but nor is Firefox for me. I think they're both plenty fast, but I prefer sites without lots of garbage flying around on the page anyway.

macOS High Sierra. I generally have a lot of tabs open: two Inbox tabs, Facebook, StackOverflow chat + question pages for what I'm working on, many JIRA tickets, HN, sometimes Twitch, etc. I think it has something to do with video rendering since opening Twitch/Youtube often causes the problems to start.

Try https://addons.mozilla.org/ca/firefox/addon/auto-tab-discard... I had been using Tab Suspender from the same author but recently noticed that it was deprecated for FF 57 or newer.

Pretty happy with it on long-running tabs I check once or twice a day.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by dorgo »

ams6110 wrote: post #174
ChrisSD wrote: post #24

It's great that they're continuing to add back customisation to the new tab page but why am I still restricted to two rows of "top sites"? I'm on a desktop here, I'm not going to run out of pixels. Even on Android I liked having more space for quick links to websites I visit semi-regularly. In fact it was more useful there because there isn't a good way to bring order to the history panel. Is it just to make room for…

And why can't I have my home page as my new tab page? I don't want any of that "top sites" BS on a new tab, I want the local HTML file that I created as my home page. Why not allow it for new tabs?

I'm cursing for about a year about this. I spent days searching for workarounds and stopped short of hacking into firefox. Maybe I should just install firefox 50 and disable updates.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by jdeibele »

John_KZ wrote: post #52

Firefox is dead to me ever since they killed their addons and marketed it as a step forward. If I wanted to use Chrome I'd use fucking Chrome.

The killer add-on for Firefox is Containers. This lets me run multiple instances of Gmail without them knowing about one another. I run Facebook and Twitter in another container and they don't know about anything Google.

My default profile is not logged into Google or Facebook or anything similar and uses DuckDuckGo for search.

You can set URLs to always open in a container. That gives me the benefit of cookies without having every website being able to detect them.

Firefox is fast, at least as fast as Chrome, for me. I did lose some extensions but the trend is very positive.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by ams6110 »

dorgo wrote: post #182
ams6110 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And why can't I have my home page as my new tab page? I don't want any of that "top sites" BS on a new tab, I want the local HTML file that I created as my home page. Why not allow it for new tabs?

I'm cursing for about a year about this. I spent days searching for workarounds and stopped short of hacking into firefox. Maybe I should just install firefox 50 and disable updates.

Only thing I've found is that hitting ALT-Home keys in the new tab will load the home page. But it's one of those tiny repeated annoyances that I'd love to avoid.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by sp332 »

grok2 wrote: post #79

After I switched to Firefox 59 beta on Windows (7 upgraded to 10), I see the following issue all the time. When accessing finance.google.com in one tab and etrade.com (internal page) in another, if I am on finance.google.com and if it refreshes and is slow for some reason I start seeing a blank page with a spinner on that tab and while this is happening, if I switch to the etrade.com tab, I see that page is blank too…

Firefox uses a limited number of content processes (I think the default is 4? Might depend on your hardware). So if both tabs get assigned to the same process, one tab freezing up means you can't use the other tab at the same time. Check under Options -> Performance to see if yours is set to use only one, or not to use separate content processes at all.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by petecox »

darkstar999 wrote: post #4
teamhappy wrote: post #2

"Added settings in about:preferences to stop websites from asking to send notifications" Been waiting for this one.

Yes! That is really being abused. I don't need notifications from recipe sites!

Indeed, once upon a time folks used RSS.

But we are in an age where any random website wants to send you realtime push notifications.

Instead of pestering you with an overlay that takes up screen real estate, the browser should indicate what subscription options are available for a page, e.g. in the address bar next to the page info icons.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by saberworks »

driverdan wrote: post #145
bzbarsky wrote: post #142

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Note that the definition of "Block 3rd party cookies" in Safari is different from the one in Firefox (not sure about Chrome). Firefox blocks a lot more stuff when that option is enabled in Firefox than Safari does when its option is enabled, which causes more web compat problems.

Blocking 3rd party cookies causes very few problems. I've blocked them for many years and have seen fewer than 10 sites it caused problems with. For those you can whitelist the domain.

My experience has been the opposite. It breaks every Amazon Pay integration and a lot of Paypal integrations as well. It also breaks online banking for the two credit unions I use, both of which seem to use some 3rd party service to run their backends. And then just whitelisting the domain isn't a great solution because then that means they can drop any 3rd party cookies, not just the desirable ones. So suddenly my online banking works, but now I've got google trackers and whatever other crap they want to drop. I believe I was able to whitelist just those cookies but that was quite a few versions ago and the interface is different now so I can't find where I did it. The cookie interface is really terribe; when you go to the site information it tells you whether the site is storing any cookies, and many times it says "No" but if you click the "view cookies" link it shows a ton of them. This happens when the domain doesn't match exactly (for example www.example.com vs example.com) so you can't really trust the Yes|No info box.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by petecox »

zbraniecki wrote: post #99
sutoor wrote: post #34

Sadly, still unusable for me since the Quantum update. A clean install and profile, no add-ons, and google.com/maps (for example) will max out my cpu. There must be some bug related to old hardware and OS (Macbook Pro 2009 + 10.11.x) or more people would be experiencing this.

Hi! I'm collecting profiles on cases like yours. Here are instructions if you'd like to help: https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/7knnn4/firefox_qua...

Thanks, I will do so.

When Firefox optimised for multi-process, did they test for single-core? I'm on a machine released this decade - a rare instance of a single core x86_64 machine (fanless Atom NUC)

Facebook is pretty much now unusable with they do their asynchronous page loading of stories.

Re: Firefox 59 released

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Post by sp332 »

Silhouette wrote: post #164
jerheinze wrote: post #157

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> Firefox was and remains slower Did you try out the Firefox Nightly with WebRender enabled?

No, but somehow I get the feeling we're talking about entirely different levels of "slower" here. You're talking about GPU-accelerating complicated page renders. I'm talking about things like regularly seeing flashes of unstyled content on page load, which I thought we'd left behind somewhere in the last millennium.

I had a look around for other people with this problem, and all the examples I found were caused by extentions. Ghostery just fixed theirs a few days ago, for example. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1404468#c36
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