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Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by mrarjen »

Really enjoy this post and the reactions of it. I also have been looking around on Amazon for small furniture and some other small products, but as a consumer, a great deal of research is needed to detect fakes or sub par products.

If you know what you want to buy, you are indeed best off buying directly from the product creators site and not get tempted by far cheaper alternatives amazon suggests... Birkenstock is a great example of this where it escalated https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/12/22/birkenstock-...

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by shard »

sdrothrock wrote: post #66
shard wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some counterpoints and comments. 1. So many legit items come from China that as a consumer you can't dismiss something out of hand just because it came from China. 3. Huawei is a Chinese name, Xiaomi is a Chinese name. See #1. 4. This is a legitimate point. The company did not optimize their name for a non-Chinese audience. I think the main thrust of why that comment has racist tones is because it feels like the main…

Great comments, but I think I disagree with some of them. :) > 1. So many legit items come from China that as a consumer you can't dismiss something out of hand just because it came from China. This is true, but I don't think it's a counterpoint. Regardless of how many legitimate products come out of China, the fact remains that the huge, huge majority of counterfeit products are from China. So if you're looking at a…

This is definitely one of those "if you squint at it, it could be racist" borderline comments. I feel that the problem with these comments is that it normalizes the acceptance of alienness as untrustworthy. That may have been true in society a long time ago, but with a global economy, this is a dangerous thought. It also has effects outside of commerce, such as marginalizing people with hard to pronounce or funny looking names. It's a subtle effect that may not have much impact in individual instances, but in aggregate can be very strong.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by [deleted] »

stryk wrote: post #151
hop wrote: post #71

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Almost everytime we contact them, we ask them to lock our products down. It's a mystery how sellers get Brand Gating, but there is plenty in the forums about it. That's part of the reason this was written, hopefully someone there can do something about it.

Hey man, this is a bit off-topic for this thread, but I have to mention that I got one of the Elevation Lab Anchor under-desk mounts when they were on sell for like 10 bucks a week or so ago. It's great, it works better than I was expecting (my main concern was the longevity of the adhesive, but I did some research into the 3M VHB and it's legit!) Now for the part that's not off topic: to remind myself how long ago I…

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Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by masonic »

asdfasdf1233 wrote: post #165
sabalaba wrote: post #47

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Since you work on the web services side it's forgivable that you would think that link to reporting infringement is an effective solution / something that Amazon pays close attention to. We've sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of product on Amazon, found a company selling a counterfeit version of our product, and submitted a complaint to that URL. That was on 4/5/2016. We have yet to receive a response. The…

There are tons of new tools for brands that were launched in 2017 to help brands proactively prevent this sort of behavior. Apply to the brand registry with your trademark info and you’ll have access to tools to proactively protect your brand. Amazon is taking this sort of behavior very seriously and has added systems in place to help prevent this. In addition to the brand registry you might also want to check out th…

Is anyone else disturbed that somebody would create a throwaway account just to defend Amazon practices in this submittal's comments?

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by siner »

Oh my god, I want this product(original) but it is not available on amazon.de! It would be amazing to get your products in Germany. I just ordered it on amazon.co.uk as shipping was less expensive than getting it on www.elevationlab.com.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by MaxBarraclough »

candiodari wrote: post #154
ceejayoz wrote: post #93

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Those don't look like counterfeits.

No ? Let me find the first 10 links matching "Chromecast". [1] ONLY the 1st and 3rd links don't have misleading/deliberately confusing or outright stolen trademarks on them (but they aren't chromecasts). Examples include the "G" on 5 and 6 in the font Google uses or the Youtube logo on 7. Examples of outright stolen trademarks include links 2, 4, 8, 9 and 10 all have the Chrome logo. For completeness, the (only) actu…

Fortunately, if you search 'fire tv' there are no counterfeits in sight.

Curious that Amazon enforce their ban on Chromecasts so much better than their ban on counterfeits.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by ikeboy »

hop wrote: post #58
NathanKP wrote: post #24

Full disclosure I work for Amazon (on the web services side). The author of this article clearly doesn't know much about selling on Amazon, because what he is asking for is possible. It's called the Amazon Brand Registry. You can contact the infringment team using the details here and initiate the process of getting your brand / ASIN locked so that other people can't sell it without your permission: https://www.amazo…

You really think the author of the post (me) doesn't communicate regularly with the Brand Registry team? Day 5 for them to do anything on this latest one.

>There is something extremely simple Amazon could do about it. If you have a registered brand in the Brand Registry and don't sell the product wholesale - there could be one box to check for that.

This isn't going to work because companies will lie their pants off to prevent distribution. I've personally had false IP complaints from multiple billion dollar companies, which are submitted under penalty of perjury, and I know of other companies that do the same.

What you should do is buy up their entire stock (it's FBA, and seems like not a lot of stock) and file not as described complaints with notice@amazon and also cc seller performance, then return as wrong item.

Re: Amazon's policies promote counterfeiting

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Post by ikeboy »

Terretta wrote: post #53
NathanKP wrote: post #24

Full disclosure I work for Amazon (on the web services side). The author of this article clearly doesn't know much about selling on Amazon, because what he is asking for is possible. It's called the Amazon Brand Registry. You can contact the infringment team using the details here and initiate the process of getting your brand / ASIN locked so that other people can't sell it without your permission: https://www.amazo…

Did you read your own link? "We do not enforce ... Detail Page Ownership ... Exclusive or Selective Distribution." As long as the counterfeit is good enough, don't bother complaining: "Other sellers can list their items for sale against pages that you have created or added your copyrighted images to. However, we do require sellers to list only against detail pages that exactly match their items. If you believe seller…

This is wrong. A counterfeit is technically a trademark violation and you can file a complaint for that.

If you sell on Amazon and also sell elsewhere and someone got their hands on a legitimate item, they can sell using your images.

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