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Yup, what I sort of alluded to in my comment above re: GNOME OS, however I was saying CoreOS the distro predates rpm-ostree. Colin was talking about some of these ideas in Berlin circa 2011 at the desktop summit (isn't that where we met btw? I forget).
Scale dude!
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The RedHat press release states that RedHat won't maintain any distro aside of those they previously maintained, which many interpret as that all Core OS distros are now EOL. This is painful and sad.
The exact quote is “Red Hat Enterprise Linux’s content, the foundation of our application ecosystem will remain our only Linux offering” The key point is “content”, which means the packages and kernel. Atomic itself is only based on RHEL content at the same schedule as RHEL (rpm-ostree and some of the tooling is the difference). So it’s not quite about Container Linux the concept being dead, just that Red Hat isn’t g…
There's no timeline or FAQ telling us how we can keep our container linux deployments, with the same software, with the same configs, working for the next years.
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Yes, and this is fast . I can spin up a new server, have it configured, started, updated, and joined to my kubernetes cluster in 12 seconds (!). And it automatically handles updates across the cluster - only a certain amount of servers restarts at a time, allowing you to stay constantly up while handling updates automatically, and potentially scaling out in seconds. It's sad RedHat EOL'd it immediately.
Red Hat EOLd what immediately?
“Red Hat Enterprise Linux’s content, the foundation of our application ecosystem will remain our only Linux offering”
TL;DR: container linux, as we know it today, is dead.
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rkt on the other hand is a dead project and completely useless to Red Hat. What support do you have for this statement? The github project is still pretty active. The architecture appears to be far more sane. k8s supports it as well as docker for the runtime piece. And just anecdotally docker hasn't been the greatest experience for me running in production. So much so that I've considered exploring rkt as a replaceme…
I'm sure rkt is well engineered (overall CoreOS has good open-source engineering). It just doesn't have much usage, and whatever advantages it has, evidently it wasn't enough to convince a meaningful number of Docker users to switch. I use Docker intensively and, like you, I've had my share of frustrating issues with it over the years. But at the end of the day, the bugs get fixed reasonably quickly, and Docker just…
I'm not sure their code has enough mileage to paper over their quality issues. At this point the only reason I'm not switching over is that I've written enough shims and code to paper over dockers problems that I have it somewhat stable and the switch cost is just barely high enough to make sticking with it the right choice for now. But it won't take too many more problems to make me reevaluate that decision.
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My company uses SAP as an ERP. They’ve been trying to push HANA on us for ages, promoting their cloud service as a manner of lessening the sticker-shock. When news came through of Google and SAP ‘partnering’, upper management saw the writing on the way and went into full money-is-no-object mode and mandated the firm have a plan to switch away from SAP to alternative solutions (that I am not at liberty to discuss) wit…
What in the world are you talking about? Who is going to data mine? Google is not going to access corporate cloud customer data no more than IBM, Amazon or Microsoft. Plus Google already has the data if they want as the executives at all these companies use Google search and other services. Google could inow what decision makers search in before a sales call but obviously are not going to be doing that. Is your post…
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Hadn't thought of it from this angle. Docker's only chance of survival is to have a cross platform container. Something that works on Windows and Linux. Perhaps Docker's only play is to fold into Microsoft to achieve a cross platform solution. Microsoft does have Brendan Burns now.
Didn't Docker announce Windows support years ago?
If there is, I'd like to learn about it.
well it would be cool if some of their stuff would be 100% open source than. Like the CoreUpdate interface. But well CoreOS is already extremly extremly simple for running k8s and stuff. We've used CoreOS basically from the beginning. We are small and so had a fleet cluster with 3 nodes. It worked, kinda but due to docker it wasn't a nice experience. Docker just had a too fast changing cycle and to much things didn't…
Good thing Red Hat has a couple of distributed-storage projects then.
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The exact quote is “Red Hat Enterprise Linux’s content, the foundation of our application ecosystem will remain our only Linux offering” The key point is “content”, which means the packages and kernel. Atomic itself is only based on RHEL content at the same schedule as RHEL (rpm-ostree and some of the tooling is the difference). So it’s not quite about Container Linux the concept being dead, just that Red Hat isn’t g…
That's a nice way to talk around the bush, but that doesn't solve the issue that, without warning or deprecation plan container linux will at some point just stop working. There's no timeline or FAQ telling us how we can keep our container linux deployments, with the same software, with the same configs, working for the next years.
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> Let's hope so for their sake. Personally I'll believe it when I see it. You can hire all the sales reps you want... If your top leadership doesn't understand or respect enterprise buyers, or know how to scale the entreprise distribution "machine", then it won't matter. Diane Greene knows the enterprise... she has hired an experienced team on the product, sales, and marketing side. > I've spoken to several enterpris…
> I have senior relationships with at least a few major international banks with aggregate budgets in the billions, and they are betting on GCP If several banks are in fact betting on GCP as a primary provider, that would be encouraging news. I will believe it when I see it! Do you expect any of them to be referenceable anytime soon? By the way: I myself think GCP is great, and I use it for various non-enterprise pro…