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AIM will be discontinued today

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Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#182
One thing I'll miss about AIM is that it's a communication modality that doesn't exist right now.

It was everywhere, and on MacOS it was integrated into the OS. For most people I knew, they had it set to join when they got on the computer. So it meant that you knew when your friends were at the computer, and you knew when you could have long "in the background" conversations with your friends.

It was just a different level of intimacy - I had so many longer and interesting, sometimes deep conversations through AIM (or through iMessage hooked up with AIM).

On a Mac at least, that's unlike anything we have now with facebook and Messenger.app. Now when you look at your buddy list, you have no idea whether they're at their computer or if they're busy or running around with their phone. I try to get my friends to join a Slack room with me, but we don't always have it started, or we're in a different Slack room. At any rate there just isn't that critical mass where you know someone is online and chattable.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#183
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Nothing is permanent, exactly so. Our ability to slog around drives full of data lets us gloss over this fact, but when we're dead, are our kids gonna keep slogging around our drives? Nah. Better way to get permanence in your life is to do things that people will remember you for, if permanence is what you're after. Crowd-sourced in other people's memories.

That's why you need to keep it on some kind of cloud storage drive arranging an annuity or trust to keep paying the bills. Then, you have a script on a cloud server that posts on Craigslist once a year or month, hiring someone to duplicate your setup on a new cloud provider, opening a port for one of your existing nodes to connect to and verify, and also ask that person to modify the reproduction script of the clone,…

Someone needs to write an Ethereum contract for data archiving! Pay for storage based on market rates, regularly verify integrity with hashes, etc.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#184

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This isn't necessarily true, snapchat deletes all of the physical messages sent within 30 days.

Snapchat is only one of several organizations who get a copy of the messages.

Sure, but the point is that they aren't retained, and in turn, leave young people in a position where they won't be blackmailed as adults for the shitty things they said as a teenager on platforms they thought were safe.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#185

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This isn't necessarily true, snapchat deletes all of the physical messages sent within 30 days.

Snapchat is only one of several organizations who get a copy of the messages.

Didn't know that, who gets copies?

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#186

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This is ridiculous FUD, you're not compromising anybody's privacy by letting google drive do an OCR for you. The chance is extremely remote that there would somehow be a leak of the information to malicious parties or the like out of Google. Is this is all over the possibility of their advertising engine seeing keywords and giving you an ad based on it? Even if that's the case then that's not a privacy violation, no…

It really doesn't matter. For those who are concerned about the privacy and are mindful enough to care about the privacy of others, putting any information on anyone else's computer (like Google's servers) is a leak. You don't know what is being done with those data, intentionally or not. And that would be the case regardless of whether or not the software is free/libre---it's being sent across a network to a destina…

...and folks concerned about security were using AOL Instant Messenger?

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#187

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Snapchat is only one of several organizations who get a copy of the messages.

Didn't know that, who gets copies?

Not sure wha GP is referring to exactly. But at least in theory, it’s possible for Google to access the images, since they’re stored on Google servers. In practice this is very unlikely.

If you save the snaps to your camera roll, then any app with photos permissions has access to them (along with any metadata). But that’s obvious.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#188
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upload it to Google Drive for easy OCR to a doc https://support.google.com/drive/answer/176692?co=GENIE.Plat...

Why let Google invade your (and your friend's) privacy just something easily done locally.

Huh... good question. I guess I would just assume that if they were deleting the data, then that must mean the've already sold it to Google, with some type of exclusively contract that mandates the removal.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#189
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I am again reminded that "youngsters these days" pretty much no longer have this option unless their online footprint is actively managed from Day One. A part of me can't wait to see the President whose entire life can be cherry-picked from various servers and datacenters.

The US just elected a president with decades of his incredibly shitty life cherry-picked by his detractors. I'm not sure that him having a Facebook profile at the age of 16 would have changed anything.

Before that we had a president photographed smoking a joint as a young man; before that we had a president convicted of DUI. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Re: AIM will be discontinued today

#190
post #122

Something I'll miss about AIM and older chat clients is how compact they were. Most of these newer chat programs seem to assume you're going to have their application take up the entire screen.

Yes, and will continually bloat with upgrades since "computers get faster, what's the problem?" (See: Electron platform.)

The main AIM client was notorious for this itself (at least in the 2000s when I used it), ads, growing installation size, bloat "features", etc.

It's what pushed a lot of users to use alternate clients or stick with old versions.

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