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Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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"Man I have no idea where we keep the key for this thing"

"Dont worry dad, I'll know how to pick locks in a sec"

"Oh man who snuck in and welded the thing shut and buried it under 5 feet of concrete? What are the odds?"

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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It sick in its own right that society has demonized talking to any children that aren't your own or in your care. Police should not have been called in that situation and just asking if the kids are ok or lost should not be viewed as a creepy action.

I'm torn. I fully agree with you. I also think quickly calling the cops to check on them as you go do something else shouldn't be that big of a deal. Because, to my mind, police should be part of the community. Ideally, not strangers in uniform. No, I don't think that is the case most (any?) place. :( I'm also afraid to look at the statistics, as I fear I'll see that this is another slant in class/race standings. :(

Indeed, if you do call the cops they should be able to send someone to speak to the children to check they're OK, make sure they've not absconded or something, rather than making an incident out of it.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Probably because helicopter parenting is in vogue (at least in the US). It is seriously messed up that you can have CPS called on you for letting your kid wander freely in the neighborhood

You won’t have CPS called on you for letting your children wander and play in the neighbor. Please don’t spread nonsense. Edited with my response to everyone depositing articles about the Meitivs: Nobody “called CPS on” the Meitivs. Somebody called the polic because they saw the children wandering around a parking garage (not a park like in many of the news stories. See [1].) The police officer then called CPS severa…

I know you're already getting a torrent of anecdotes right now, but I really think it's important not to sweep this under the rug. I have a co-worker who lives in a nice suburban neighborhood and had CPS called on him because his child was allowed to play in the park across the street from his house unsupervised. His child was interviewed by a social worker, his house was searched for drugs, the contents of his fridge were evaluated, and he had to go to court. In my state, it only takes one person to call, and once that person calls, an investigation is legally required, regardless of how spurious.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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From the numbers, back in the 50s kids probably only saw their fathers on the weekends in married families. It is startling to see how much more time fathers get with their kids nowdays.

Whilst now we're much more progressive and kids don't see either parent!?

By the numbers, kids see more parents nowadays, though.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Many are sharing personal experiences as well. I have not had CPS called on me. But I do have friends who dealt with that. In fact I know more people whose had CPS called on them than I do people who have been in car accidents. So it doesn't seem to be a super low probability event. What also has me concerned is that my kids are heading towards puberty. Over 1/4 of all registered sex offenders committed their crime w…

What? Please explain how a minor can become a registered sex offender. I'm not American, sometimes America just confuses us foreigners.

https://forum.freeadvice.com/juvenile-law-90/mooning-sexual-...

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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> [for men] child-caring time has jumped from 16 minutes a day to 59. I always wanted to spend more time with my own children than my father did with me. It's nice to know I'm not the only one who managed to pull it off.

Perhaps ... I've spent 12 hours today with my kids, all but the first hour-90 minutes of their day (excepting school time for the schoolies; about 5 hours in the same space as them).

I didn't read the article but is this effect coming from father's doing more time as stay-at-home parents?

[FWIW we're dead poor financially at least in part through choice to have lots of contact with our kids.]

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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> One analysis of 11 rich countries estimates that the average mother spent 54 minutes a day caring for children in 1965 but 104 minutes in 2012. Men do less than women, but far more than men in the past: their child-caring time has jumped from 16 minutes a day to 59. I spend 100+ minutes every day changing diapers. Actually that's not true, most of my time is spent trying to put the stupid newborn to go to sleep. I…

I learnt from psychologist that there are ways to help newborn to get asleep.

Newborn is in a very uncomfortable conditions for him. He used to be in a liquid environment. It was very noisy environment: there was a lot of sounds made by mothers body, digesting and more importantly heartbeat. It was dark there. But now he is on the air, he need to breathe, he hears silence with interruptions by some sharp sounds (in the belly sounds are different, I think there are no high frequences), and there are lights. Moreover first year baby experiences difficultes with thermoregulation of his body. Probably there are more things that trouble him, I'm not pretending to give you a full list.

Give him "heartbeat", give him a smell of his mother, ensure he is experiencing comfortable temperature, and he, probably, would get quiet. Try it with real mother first, let her take him, lay his head near her heart. If it works, get mother's dirty T-shirt and place it near nose of a baby. You can also try find some audio track, which makes your baby happy by sounding similarly enough to a heartbeat. The psychologist told a story of mother, who liked to walk near railways: her crying baby stopped cry every passed train, because he experienced noise level he used to. Moreover that was rythmic noise, like heartbeat. I don't think it is good idea to reach such levels of noise indoors at night, but you got an idea: do not make silence in his room, let it be some constant rythmic noise.

Though it does not work every time. Sometimes baby just don't want to sleep and get bored. But not in first few weeks: the first few weeks for him is a constant suffering of adaptation to a completely alien environment.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Yes. Do you really think most unmarried families have both mother and father in the household, though? Regular contact with the father would be a lot more difficult if he's not around except on weekends.

Poor working class people? Absolutely. It's impossible to get many benefits like WIC, rent assistance, heating assistance, etc if you are married, and it's difficult to afford childcare if mom is working and family cannot chip in, especially when you consider that many industries don't provide full-time jobs or sick time. It's cheaper for mom to stop working due to the child and bridge the gap with public assistance…

You hit the bullseye with this one. Parents remain unmarried in a monogamous, cohabiting relationship because the government pays them to not get married. Every benefit that has a household means test attached is an additional incentive to strategically realign the membership of your households.

So you designate one household as the mooch household, and one as the worker household. The latter tends to be ineligible for all manner of otherwise useful benefits, working full-time at minimum wage, and benefits may even be curtailed working part-time. The other can collect the maximum available benefits.

This also leads to some strange behavior in states that have common-law marriages.

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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Two of my buddies had kids when they were 19-20, when I see one of them his daughter is basically watching youtube videos all the time sitting on the couch. The other guy does not really let his kids around phones or tablets, they can watch TV, but thats also heavily regulated. But usually when we are around, they hang out with us and work on cars. Its really fun to teach them stuff about cars even if they are only 5…

Not sure which ones, but my friend's five-year-old girl spends her time watching videos of and older girl showing off her Brand-Name Doll, and all the accessories you can buy for it, and how isn't it just so cute when I put her in THIS accessory , and tune in tomorrow for more accessories you can buy... That definitely makes me sick.

At least the older one is being productive and producing content. Hey, there are some silly YouTubers who make real money from just streaming their life (games, fashion, etc).

Arguably, what they’re doing is better than sitting in front of a passive device like a TV. Sure, they could be spending their time more wisely, but the kids need some sort of down time (exactly how much time is for the parents to figure out).

Re: Parents now spend twice as much time with their children as 50 years ago

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"One of Galinsky's more surprising findings centered around a question she posed to both children and parents: "If you were granted one wish to change the way your mother's/your father's work affects your life, what would that wish be?" Some 56 percent of parents anticipated that their children would want more time with their parents and for their parents to spend less time at work, yet only 10 percent of the childre…

I think the interpretation of this is off. Less tired and less stressed translates to "more time with their parents".

Or perhaps more "quality" time. If a parent is too stressed or tired to give their full attention and engaging with a child, then this really does translate to wanting parents to work less.

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