Number of people who actually need high speed networking is quite low. Yet this naturally means, that the high speed option might not be available at all, with reasonable cost. 4G and 5G means that there will be less and less wired (copper or fiber) connections.
The beginning of the end for copper wire
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
Verizon never got subsidies from New York. Verizon pays the city for the right to wire it up (5% of gross revenues).
So false! Read anything by Kushnick... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-kushnick/the-book-of-br...
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#183Earlier quoted context omitted.
Reading the article I dreamed of a community system were every flat / house was a wireless peer in a mesh grid.
The latency would be horrible. Fine for email, or downloading something you need in the future. But real time interaction as chat, or browsing the web would be really slow. Streaming would be out of the question as well.
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#184Let's not forget alarm service, which is why I keep my copper loop.
Newer alarms often have cellular modems and enough battery to make the call even if you cut the power.
Of course, in a crisis, I may not get a response to the alarm.
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#185Earlier quoted context omitted.
So false! Read anything by Kushnick... https://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-kushnick/the-book-of-br...
See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7709556 .
The RBOCs promised they would roll out fiber, FCC and PUCs promised they would enforce that, and we assumed any of them had any integrity. Whoops! Then, with the 1996 act, RBOCs traded lots of competitive requirements for the right to reconsolidate into Ma Bell (which at this time they have mostly completed, only now with substantial monopoly of the wireless market in addition to that of the wired one). Again we assumed integrity on the part of any of them. More importantly, lots of wealthy investors assumed that. The two decades since then have been a clinic on how a monopolist who owns the regulators can steal billions from the rest of us. "Too bad about all that money you spent setting up that CLEC... You can forget about us obeying (or the regulators enforcing) any of those leasing or interconnection rules... We'll give you ten cents on the dollar for your now-worthless network and customer base."
Is it any wonder that ATT, SBC, VZN monopolized the wireless market? At the very moment that the market was expanding and big infrastructure investments needed to be made, we had just given them hundreds of billions of dollars! Their abuse of the landline market financed their capture of the wireless market. How could anyone else compete with that? More to the point, who would be stupid enough to try, after getting their asses kicked on the wired side, in direct violation of the 1996 Act? The problem with treating changed circumstances as some sort of extenuation for all the broken promises and unenforced laws, is that the changed circumstances were intentionally engineered by Ma Bell, regardless of the lies they told.
Fool us a dozen times, shame on us.
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#187Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hard to tell. The phone line may have been wired incorrectly or poorly which required the tech to do that
A POTS telephone line, which is what we're talking about here, can handle being cut and reconnected without a fuss. It would appear the elevator guys did not notice what they had done or did not understand its importance.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
This chart suggests at 1800m you can expect below 20mbps https://www.increasebroadbandspeed.co.uk/2013/chart-bt-fttc-... Which is both slower than the fibre that had already been planned, and slower than the then incoming government's "25mbps for everyone by end of 2016" promise (which they missed). It also doesn't have a good cheap upgrade path and assumes that the copper is good and doesn't need to be replaced (it…
And does the average consumer need more than 20MBS and more to the point be willing to pay for it. Some of the more extreme claims that we all need GB speed links don't make sense its like saying every house/flat needs a 56Kv 3 phase power supply.
The most commonly purchased NBN service in 2016 is 25mbps Down 5mbps up. (51%) and 14% of customers buy 100/40: So yes to both questions.
And that’s 2016. Why skate to where the puck is rather than where it’s going?
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7709556 .
The premise of deregulation was that it would lead to increased infrastructure spending. And it has: the late 1990's and the 2000's saw massive investment into cable and wireless. People assumed at the time the money would go into fiber, but demand exploded in wireless so investment went there instead. The RBOCs promised they would roll out fiber, FCC and PUCs promised they would enforce that, and we assumed any of t…
There was never a quid pro quo: deregulation in return for fiber. We deregulated for the same reason everyone else in the western world did: to attract private investment. And we got that in spades—about $1.5 trillion since the 1996 Act. The Internet—the wires and fiber and switches—as we know it was built almost entirely with private money since 1996.
Saying we “gave” ISPs money because we stopped controlling the prices they could charge is extremely disingenuous.
Re: The beginning of the end for copper wire
#190Let's not forget alarm service, which is why I keep my copper loop.
Newer alarms often have cellular modems and enough battery to make the call even if you cut the power.