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Re: Tesla's mass firings spread to SolarCity

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Post by kamaal » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 2:58 AM UTC

gaius wrote: post #174

kamaal wrote: post #172

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The economic set ups across the world changed. You can't fault companies for doing what was needed. In India many old people got shafted both the ways being asked to take voluntary retirements and being subjected to high inflation rates at the same time.

You can't fault companies for doing what was needed. Well, you can, or no obligation means anything anymore. Why should a company even pay you your wages if things are a little tight this month, by that logic?

Salary is an obligation in return for your services. The company doesn't owe a person a job for passing time at office.

Its just people woke up to the fact that socialism wasn't a feasible model anymore.

Re: Tesla's mass firings spread to SolarCity

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Post by gaius » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 5:54 AM UTC

kamaal wrote: post #181

gaius wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't fault companies for doing what was needed. Well, you can, or no obligation means anything anymore. Why should a company even pay you your wages if things are a little tight this month, by that logic?

Salary is an obligation in return for your services. The company doesn't owe a person a job for passing time at office. Its just people woke up to the fact that socialism wasn't a feasible model anymore.

OK, a company decides it won't pay your pension anymore then - identical scenario.

Re: Tesla's mass firings spread to SolarCity

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Post by kamaal » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:12 AM UTC

gaius wrote: post #182

kamaal wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salary is an obligation in return for your services. The company doesn't owe a person a job for passing time at office. Its just people woke up to the fact that socialism wasn't a feasible model anymore.

OK, a company decides it won't pay your pension anymore then - identical scenario.

Its not an identical scenario. Companies don't pay pensions in most countries. These largely get paid through Pension funds, which by and large investment money in Government backed securities.

These are debt obligations at the level of a country. On 'your' investments.

This is totally different than saying a person should be given a job, even if they don't work.

Re: Tesla's mass firings spread to SolarCity

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Post by gaius » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 7:29 AM UTC

kamaal wrote: post #183

gaius wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, a company decides it won't pay your pension anymore then - identical scenario.

Its not an identical scenario. Companies don't pay pensions in most countries. These largely get paid through Pension funds, which by and large investment money in Government backed securities. These are debt obligations at the level of a country. On 'your' investments. This is totally different than saying a person should be given a job, even if they don't work.

Companies don't pay pensions in most countries

Ummm airlines and automakers in the US do, or did. Lots of companies/countries are the same.

Re: Tesla's mass firings spread to SolarCity

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Post by matt_wulfeck » Fri, Oct 27, 2017, 8:00 PM UTC

sgc wrote: post #163

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #111

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Solarcity. Highly recommended.

Weird. I had them come by for a quote and they were about 25% more than the second closest bid. I never did the full math. This was on a 5kW installation.

My email is in my profile if you want my details. Our system is 6.8kwh. I didn’t go with solarcity because they were the cheapest.