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Speech Recognition Is Not Solved
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Re: Speech Recognition Is Not Solved
#182It is one thing to hear and correctly identify the words. It is another to understand the meaning. I've been thinking about this because my son has Auditory Processing Disorder, APD. He can hear great, even a whisper across the house. The trouble is the words don't always make sense. He can tell me the words he heard and they are correct, but assigning a meaning to them doesn't work like it does for most people. Afte…
I'd never heard of APD. Interesting, all my life I've struggled to follow a conversation in a crowded environment, so much so that I actively avoid background noise with words in, I work with silicon ear plugs in or headphones and music with no lyrics. Looking at NHS symptoms they describe me as a child, didn't learn to read until I was 8. I nearly ended up in the remedial track but for a single awesome teacher who s…
Wow, you just made me cry. That's beautiful that your teacher was willing to do that for you. Thanks to all the awesome teachers out there.
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What's the difference?
I don't mean to denigrate the wonderful contribution that the teacher in question made, as it's truly a selfless commitment with life changing impact. However - One distinction may be that the star teacher scales better. What if there were two students with this problem? Should the teacher stay late? Should teachers not take lunch? What if someone needs help in math, etc. A star teacher may be able to reproduce this…
I am not clear on what definition you are using for "star teacher". But it sounds like "caring" is in the set of things that are required to be a star teacher.
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Only one data point, but I find it much harder to filter out speech from background noise in my second language than I do when people are speaking my first language in a noisy environment. My guess would be that we have multiple ways of processing language that use different bits of our brains.
I also notice that even though I can't read lips, I often find it much easier to understand what people are saying when I can see them. I think part of the reason speech recognition isn't generally at a human-level is that they don't receive the same amount or kind of data that we do. An interesting experiment might be to include a speaker's native tongue when trying to recognize their speech in a different language.…
My son was so good at reading lips that we'd play a game where we only mouthed words and he'd tell us what we "said". In school we let the teacher know he needed to see her say the words on a spelling test. In those younger years that was the only way he could tell the different in some sounds. The big one I remember was "th" and teaching him to look for the tongue on the front teeth.
As he is getting older he relies less on seeing lips. I'm hopeful at some point he'll outgrow most issues.
Re: Speech Recognition Is Not Solved
#185It is one thing to hear and correctly identify the words. It is another to understand the meaning. I've been thinking about this because my son has Auditory Processing Disorder, APD. He can hear great, even a whisper across the house. The trouble is the words don't always make sense. He can tell me the words he heard and they are correct, but assigning a meaning to them doesn't work like it does for most people. Afte…
Sorry to hear that your son has APD! This makes me wonder though - do you know if this condition is language-specific? I assume you taught him English; would he have same problems with a very foreign language - say, Chinese?
I don't think it is language specific. He is in karate and I didn't see and difference.
The background noise seems to be key. He was doing great in karate and a new teacher started blasting music. He went from doing great to being unable to know he should put his right for forward when told to. That was one of the clues that something wasn't normal.
Re: Speech Recognition Is Not Solved
#186It is one thing to hear and correctly identify the words. It is another to understand the meaning. I've been thinking about this because my son has Auditory Processing Disorder, APD. He can hear great, even a whisper across the house. The trouble is the words don't always make sense. He can tell me the words he heard and they are correct, but assigning a meaning to them doesn't work like it does for most people. Afte…
Interesting. I wonder if your son will be smarter as a result, kinda like when neural networks generalize better if trained with a dropout.
He seems a bit behind on social cues, but I am often shocked at things he picks up on. We just started playing the board game "Clue". The second game he was using tricks that I use but hadn't mentioned. His deductive reasoning was awesome. He won that game and I don't "let" my kids win.
Re: Speech Recognition Is Not Solved
#187I think some people overestimate how good humans are at speech recognition. Unfamiliar accents and noisy environments cause havoc with many people. I had a friend who learned English in India when I was in High School, so I was used to that accent; many of my classmates in College could not understand anything our Indian T/A said freshmen year. Similarly I had friends for whom English was a second language who had li…
My grandfather was on the ferry from Norway to Denmark with my sister. We're all from Norway. He had quite reduced hearing and used a hearing aid. They were having dinner at the ships restaurant, and the waiter asked my grandfather something. My grandfather just didn't understand the guy and asked the waiter to repeat several times. After the 4th time, my sister told my grandfather: "Grandpa, he's Swedish". My grandp…
It's also cool that your sister was able to assess what the problem was with nothing more than observation, and then cause your grandpa to switch to a more effective processing model with a simple utterance.
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Exactly. This is also why Google sponsors the CHiME challenge, the existence of which is more proof that ASR is pretty far from solved. http://spandh.dcs.shef.ac.uk/chime_challenge/
Good stuff. Was looking into cheap array mics with linux drivers a few times in the past but not much is available. Speech separation - Mitsubishi Research has done some pretty impressive stuff on that - http://www.merl.com/demos/deep-clustering . Haven't seen equivalents of that in open source ASR
This is the useful info I've seen hardware-wise recently:
https://medium.com/snips-ai/benchmarking-microphone-arrays-r...
https://developer.amazon.com/alexa-voice-service/dev-kits/co...
Amazon's 7-mic hardware has its own OEM program.
Re: Speech Recognition Is Not Solved
#189It is one thing to hear and correctly identify the words. It is another to understand the meaning. I've been thinking about this because my son has Auditory Processing Disorder, APD. He can hear great, even a whisper across the house. The trouble is the words don't always make sense. He can tell me the words he heard and they are correct, but assigning a meaning to them doesn't work like it does for most people. Afte…
What you're asking for is equivalent to a general purpose intelligence, i.e. human intelligence, i.e. AI-complete. All (most?) of our ideas can be expressed in language, so in order to actually understand language, you have to actually understand any idea.
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I agree - I don't care how good Google gets it, this is an unsolved problem until I can do it with open source tools operating without an internet connection.
I don't think "donate your voice" will ever work. They should incorporate it in a product and add a checkbox to share your voice/statistics to improve the system.
Why don't you think it will work? Their goal is 10,000 hours of speech, which doesn't seem like an unattainable goal to me.
The dataset is only going to grow as time goes on. They just need to get their website in order (a stats page to show where they're currently at and how far they need to go would help a lot) and throw a little advertising behind it. It's just a matter of time