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Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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post #180

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> You've also underscored how productive communication is more than just laying out facts or correcting mistakes. How one does so strongly affects its effectiveness. If someone can't understand a simple list of facts unless it's couched in ... literature-course fluff, I suppose it could be called? ... then that's their problem and they're accomplishing precious little by foisting it onto everyone else. > And I genera…

Effective communication is more than just transferring a simple list of facts. You're correct that communication takes two people. If my goal is have someone accept my point of view (and while it may seem counter-intuitive, that includes facts), I have to take into account how it will be received by my audience. If they don't take it in the way I'm presenting it, it's my responsibility to evaluate if there's a better…

It's their failure, and one's own frustration is, at least, limited to downvotes-received.

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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post #177

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I, for example, speak english as second language, and frequently a comment of mine is read more aggressively than I meant it, so it ends up at -10 or worse, even when being factually correct. So I’m reducing my activity on HN in general as far as possible, and only post as uncontroversial opinions as possible, because I fear that going against the established opinion would just get me downvoted again.

> frequently a comment of mine is read more aggressively than I meant it This is a common occurrence. Written communication involves both the writer and the reader(s), and unfortunately that results in losing other channels of communication such as intonation and body language. I think written communication is a skill that can be improved with purposeful practice if you think it's worth your time (and to be fair, whe…

For example look at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15231085

Where is the reason that ever of my comments in that comment chain was originally voted to -4?

I jist don't get it. It's not attacking anyone, providing additional information about the parent comment, and factually correct (as another user even provides a cdc source later on)

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> frequently a comment of mine is read more aggressively than I meant it This is a common occurrence. Written communication involves both the writer and the reader(s), and unfortunately that results in losing other channels of communication such as intonation and body language. I think written communication is a skill that can be improved with purposeful practice if you think it's worth your time (and to be fair, whe…

For example look at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15231085 Where is the reason that ever of my comments in that comment chain was originally voted to -4? I jist don't get it. It's not attacking anyone, providing additional information about the parent comment, and factually correct (as another user even provides a cdc source later on)

Dangerous territory, here :) To be very clear, this is my speculation on what's going on in other people's minds. It can be useful to think about (as it's an exercise in empathy) but often dangerous to explicitly list everything publicly, as one has to evaluate charitable and uncharitable readings, and in general expressing the uncharitable ones, while realistic, tend to draw the most attention (it's just human nature), and in effective communication one should strive to act on the charitable interpretations while seeking to avoid the uncharitable ones. So, please be gentle ;)

The primary issue I see here is that it's an iPhone thread on the day of an announcement. Emotions are going to be even higher than normal and I always take extra care when entering such waters. I remind myself that effective communication takes two parties, and this particular ground is already seeded with land mines.

Questions I'd ask myself, even of facts:

Is this worth saying? Does it add to the discussion? How much does it add to the discussion even if I am able to couch it in the best possible way? Am I correcting someone? How do people react to correction, even if I'm right? What is the reaction to the least charitable reading of what I'm posting? Am I on topic (both in the subthread and the submission)?

Putting on my most uncharitable hat here, I'd say this subthread starting with 'xvolter's comment was doomed from the start.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15230968

It can be read as nitpicky, needlessly negative, and incendiary (likely to evoke a strong, defensive emotional response). The lead-in "Are they aware" can be read as very condescending. I haven't read up on the iPhone release, but I suspect Apple used the phrase "surgical steel" to describe some component of the iPhone. To take them to task for that is pedantic. It's marketing speak. You have to expect some level of exaggeration. Even if it's technically correct, what is this correction going to contribute to the thread on iPhone X? Is it likely to create constructive discussion? From what I've observed, some HN members will down-vote such comments and those in the subthread even if they're correct because it's not constructive to the overall discussion. And flame wars not only are destructive in their own thread, they tend to poison the entire forum as it promotes needless argumentation. Don't get me wrong: it's easy to get caught up in such a thread, thinking "Look, once I point out this, it'll be resolved. It's just a clarification. I'm just trying to help." I know, because I've been there.

Also note that even if this is not exactly what was going on in any one down-voter's head, it's useful in that it gets me thinking about how it might be received and generally how I can improve my comment—which might mean not commenting at all.

To put this even more personally, thoughts that have been going through my mind while composing this post:

- Gosh, this is getting long. I'd really like to tighten it up. Is it worth the effort? How much time should I take reviewing and editing it before posting? (After writing but before posting I'll be sure to review the entire comment, but I know I'm not going to tighten it up much because I'm tired.)

- What I've written can easily be misconstrued, particularly because I've written things that are uncharitable, even though I've put in the disclaimer that's what I'm doing on purpose as an exercise. It's late, and I know I haven't thought through everything or the entire thing very thoroughly. I know that in and of itself opens it up to misunderstanding. Are people going to misread what I've written because I've left something out? Is the possibility of that miscommunication greater than the value the post is contributing?

- I'm particularly concerned about my explicit, uncharitable reading of 'xvolter's comment and the response to the entire subthread. Is it necessary to include this for my comment as a whole to be effective? Can I write the comment while excluding it? How much time would that take? I'm leaving it in because I think it is useful and on balance, really, what does it matter in this single instance? (But it does matter, on some level. It's a reflection on me.)

I'll end up clicking "reply" because I think you've put yourself out there and sound like you're sincerely looking to improve your writing, and that's worth the effort. I also think that it's clear that my intent is clear and good, and I'm know I myself am still learning: if there's some negative reaction to this, I'll take that and use it to improve my writing next time. I certainly know I've got more to learn :)

In sum: it's a volatile submission, it's an off-topic subthread, and getting involved is fraught with danger.

Wow. Did I really need all of those words if that short summary is all there is to it?

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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Is there a piece of software that creates nice looking static photo galleries? I have used a few and they all seem to suffer from design that is 10-15 years old.

Maybe you will find https://bitbucket.org/niol/lazygal useful.

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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post #64
post #54

Holy cow. Is this an improvement? Remember in 1999 when you could get a static website up in 3 minutes using ftp?

And you could do it with a WYSIWYG editor which would output reasonable markup. (dreamweaver) Or more popular, you could do it with a horrible WYSWIG editor which output garbage (Frontpage express).

Dreamweaver still generated garbage, though not nearly as bad as Front-page.

I remember getting pissed at DW making 600kb files, but hand-rolling it brought it down to ~200kb.

Ah, life on dial-up, when those bytes mattered.

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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Not really. They have two options for protecting the "back" connection: Full SSL and Full SSL (Strict). Full SSL doesn't really protect you since Cloudflare won't check if the certificate is valid, an attacker could make their own self-signed cert and MITM you. Full SSL (Strict) requires a valid cert for the domain being requested . If you had that, you wouldn't need Cloudflare in the first place.

But the domain is github.com, which has a valid ssl cert. You only need cloudflare to get it on your own domain.

Right, but Cloudflare doesn't actually check if the cert is valid, unless you enable Strict mode, which you can't because you'd need Github to serve a cert for your own domain.

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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Neocities [0] does all of this! - It's free (though you can become a supporter and get some extra benefits) [1] - It's fast, since it uses it's own CDN. [2] - It's secure, all pages support SSL, even with custom domains. [3] - It has a command line tool [4] that can be wrapped to automate upload of pages, or used in a Git hook. - It has a plethora of learning resources [5]. [0] https://neocities.org [1] https://neoci…

If you don't like to play with CLI and want to host files on Amazon's S3, go with the Sheetsu Pages [1] (I'm co-founder). - It's uses Amazon's S3 CDN, actually your site is deployed to their all edge locations - supports https - you can add your custom domain - you upload files to Google Drive, click sync button and it's done

[1] https://pages.sheetsu.com

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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Neocities [0] does all of this! - It's free (though you can become a supporter and get some extra benefits) [1] - It's fast, since it uses it's own CDN. [2] - It's secure, all pages support SSL, even with custom domains. [3] - It has a command line tool [4] that can be wrapped to automate upload of pages, or used in a Git hook. - It has a plethora of learning resources [5]. [0] https://neocities.org [1] https://neoci…

If you don't like to play with CLI and want to host files on Amazon's S3, go with the Sheetsu Pages [1] (I'm co-founder). - It's uses Amazon's S3 CDN, actually your site is deployed to their all edge locations - supports https - you can add your custom domain - you upload files to Google Drive, click sync button and it's done [1] https://pages.sheetsu.com

Bad ssl

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't like to play with CLI and want to host files on Amazon's S3, go with the Sheetsu Pages [1] (I'm co-founder). - It's uses Amazon's S3 CDN, actually your site is deployed to their all edge locations - supports https - you can add your custom domain - you upload files to Google Drive, click sync button and it's done [1] https://pages.sheetsu.com

Bad ssl

Why?

Re: Building a fast, secured and free static site in less than three hours

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post #188

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Bad ssl

Why?

> pages.sheetsu.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for the following names: sheetsu.com, www.sheetsu.com Error code: SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN
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