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Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Could you please tell me whether its applicable in India or any other counties or not?

We're working to figure that out, but first we'll start servicing more of the US applicants we have (we can only teach a tiny, tiny fraction of the willing students at this point).

What determines whether an applicant is accepted into the course?

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Yes!

That's cool, but isn't there an inherent ageism in the industry that would prevent someone of that vintage from getting a job? Especially without a broad resume.. I'm all for the idea of older folk getting tech jobs (I'd like to be one myself, someday), but it seems like a larger risk on your part.

There may be some ageism, but there are enough employers that don't care that we're more than OK to take that risk.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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i'm not affiliated, but like this model. > How do you know that your graduates are or aren't making more than 50k? How do you know that you're getting your 17%? you can ask students to fill out and sign, as a condition of admission, forms authorizing the IRS to hand over their tax returns, in advance. it wouldn't be very hard to contract with a law firm to take the results and check to see if they had more than 50k o…

Could you please tell me whether its applicable in India or any other counties or not?

I think India would be much more difficult because the Indian salaries are lower and it's more difficult to take someone to court if they owe you money. (And possibly more people who underreport their income)

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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That's where we test new instructors. It's a class taught to thousands of people at once, so very, very different.

I see. Thanks for answering that. If you don't mind, I have some follow-up questions then (since I'm considering doing this as a way to get back into a programming career and possibly recommending this to a friend's friend who has been looking for a bootcamp to change careers): * What is the style for the actual lectures? * Are you using any tools aside from screencasting and chat to supplement the lectures? * Your c…

Ok, style for the actual class: We start the day out with a code challenge, then move into a mini lecture (a few students with one instructor) and a mini project you'll work on with a pair programming partner. Then another short lecture and you'll begin working on your main project.

If you're ever stuck you jump onto our #help channel on Slack and there's instantly someone available to help out. Chances are they've seen that problem before.

Once you're finished with your challenge or project you'll submit it as a pull request (we use Github for everything) and you'll have a code review. Sometimes those are in person, sometimes they're just comments left on code.

We have frequent brown bag lectures (lectures with industry experts) and office hours with instructors to discuss, well, anything.

Hope that helps!

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Australia has the best of all of this already to study at any Australian University! - Depending on your social-economic background, The government pays you a cost-of-living income [1], - pays your university fees [2] which are tiny compared to US fees, - and you repay back 4%/year once your have an income > than approx A$55,000. 17% looks very painful in comparison! Of cause, you need to be an Australian, so it prob…

4% a year for how long and what's the cap? What if you never get a job? Any other restrictions? Ps - forgive my shortness I'm on mobile.

4% until you pay it off. The "interest" on your loan is pegged at inflation. If you never get a job you never pay it back. This is actually a problem for the gov, where older students study but never find a job in their field.

Great scheme overall though.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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17% is huge, particularly when you consider it within the context of after tax income. $100k salary is $60k or so after taxes in California; take away $17k + rent and food, and you're getting pretty close to paycheck to paycheck living, particularly if the person has loans from a failed college attempt, medical expenses, etc. They're essentially asking for $30-$60k or so - which is more than in state tuition for a ba…

Repayment is capped at $30k max, so the most we could possibly take is $30,000.

Original posting is ambiguous on whether the $30k cap is yearly, or for the whole duration. Thanks for the correction.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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> What these programs need most of all are cheap dormitories that offer room/board. That's also true, but it's much more easily for someone to find a place to crash for six months than to come up with $10k out-of-pocket. Eventually we'll be able to provide a stipend for living expenses and/or dormitory style living as well, but for now it is what it is.

A studio apartment in Oakland is $1,500 a month. There are already a bunch of great free resources to learn to code, including Codecademy, Coursera, Khan Academy, MIT OpenCourseware, and freeCodeCamp. Right now, the people who need to learn to code need room and board, not yet another free coding school.

The difference is that with Khan Academy, Coursera etc. you need self discipline. With Lambda you have a coach who expects you to be at your computer at 9am every weekday, and who has a strong financial incentive to ensure you learn.

Plus in time a Lambda qualification may become more respected by employers than a Coursera degree.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

#188
I'm going to play devils advocate here. I don't think I'd be in your target market primarily because I feel for 15k a year I can achieve a decent education just by online resources alone. It would be just as well recognized; I'd even think that a local community college could be cheaper. Granted, upfront cash is a luxury that few without the bank of mom and dad can access.

An Irish degree costs 3000 euros a year to enroll. Even for four years that would be cheaper than what's on offer here with a world wide recognized qualification.

On the whole, it seems like a very American solution to an American problem, education is just far too expensive in the states. * I'm a beneficiary of free state education from Ireland.

Best of luck in the effort, I do applaud you for it especially in the US where there are always tech shortages but...I really wish your country was in a place where your type of business didn't have to exist. A country where only those who can afford to be educated can receive education. I'm saying this as someone living in Nepal where those who can't pay can't learn either.

I really wish education was subsidized, worldwide! Alas, never going to happen.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

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Actually it is. https://www.appacademy.io/

I was referring to the part about us taking a percentage if you're not working as an engineer. Of course there are other schools that use income share agreements.

Afaik App Academy only collects for software engineering jobs.

Re: Launch HN: Lambda School (YC S17) – CS education that's free until you get a job

#190

Services like this will flood the job market. I wish I could get out of engineering

There's a service called college that millions of people begin each year. We'll barely be a drop in the bucket. The demand for engineers is growing rapidly. You'll be just fine.

Right but this is zero upfront cost. Kudos to you guys if it works out
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