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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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I use a Mac. And I also use this when I'm using Windows. I try to use both so I stay up to speed on the latest developments of both platforms.

WSL leveled the playing field for me. WSL makes Windows a decent dev machine out of the box.

I wish Visual Studio would integrate better with it though. e.g. if I run a project in VS, I want the option of running in WSL.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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If your willing to pay MacBook prices I'd give Lenovo another look. The latest Carbon is just... a perfect laptop as far as I'm concerned.

It may be MacBook prices but they certainly don't offer Apple support. I'm never going to go through that hassle again.

Yeah, fair point. Fortunately I've only once ever had to get service for a Lenovo in the 10+ years I've owned one. But you're not wrong.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.

Why not use Linux? Same price point advantage, and even better than mac for development because you can develop on the exact same distro you will use for your server.

For me it's all about power management:

Sleep and hibernate still manage to break periodically.

Higher battery consumption unless I'm willing to break out powertop and tweak endlessly.

Meanwhile, the dev I do is all cross-platform Java and scripting. WSL provides a useful unix-like environment when I need it. And when it really matters I break out a VM.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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It is not an emulator and the experience is pretty great for anything involving Linux as a workstation. Even though they say "NO current plans to support X/GUI apps, desktops, servers, etc. at this time", this is achievable by installing VcXsrv.

A Linux workstation at the very least involves X and full user's control over the computer, neither of which are provided by this piece of software.

> A Linux workstation at the very least involves X

That's kind of a strange comment given that in these very same comment boxes the most ardent *nix users tend to bash the entire concept of GUI (no pun intended) and just assert that a command-line interface is the right way to use a computer.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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post #77

I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.

What happened? Did apple simultaneously fire all of it's hardware team along with it's QA dept? (we know the 2nd one happened). I love apple, but it feels like they have a CEO who's running it in "latter years" mode. Zero risk, minimize cost everywhere, maximize profit even if it results in absurd cash piles... This is what you get when bean counters run tech companies.

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Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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Why not use Linux? Same price point advantage, and even better than mac for development because you can develop on the exact same distro you will use for your server.

I can write code on Linux, but I cannot run my accounting/finance/photosoft software. Sometimes I need to run test on IE too. I understand the love for Linux for some people, but I would like to get things done the quickest way, of course with the quality required too.

I use a powerful Linux laptop, a thinkpad, and run Windows VM for any software that's windows specific. It makes me sure I can isolate these untrusted applications from the rest of my data.

QubeOS is a good OS to provide these isolation techniques.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

#189
post #77

I hope my Macbook days would be over soon. After using Macbook Pro many years, I find good Windows machines are as reliable as Mac's ones. Apple products are usually overpriced, much less options for hardware accessories and upgrades, very expensive to fix. I have to keep running both Mac & Windows machines which is very inconvenient sometimes.

Why not use Linux? Same price point advantage, and even better than mac for development because you can develop on the exact same distro you will use for your server.

Because then you have two environments to maintain, your Windows OS and then Linux too. It's much easier to do everything on your Windows PC instead of building two separate environments. Bash on Windows is the best of both worlds together.

Re: Windows Subsystem for Linux is out of beta

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not use Linux? Same price point advantage, and even better than mac for development because you can develop on the exact same distro you will use for your server.

For me it's all about power management: Sleep and hibernate still manage to break periodically. Higher battery consumption unless I'm willing to break out powertop and tweak endlessly. Meanwhile, the dev I do is all cross-platform Java and scripting. WSL provides a useful unix-like environment when I need it. And when it really matters I break out a VM.

Sleep and hibernate have never broken for me on various ThinkPads, what hardware and distro are you using?

These days tlp gives power management on Linux a good set of defaults. Powertop tweaking should not be necessary as long as you use a distro that supports tlp.

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