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Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by xiaoma »

neverminder wrote: post #142
ajnin wrote: post #139

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Seems contradictory to buy a low quality item based on unfair reviews, complain about that fact, then go on saying that reviewers owe nothing to anyone. They obviously owe a modicum of honesty and objectivity to other potential buyers. Why would you leave a review if not to inform other buyers ?

Well in this case I left a review because the seller was hassling me for one. Personally I have little trust in reviews. By the way, I wasn't complaining in my original post, just stating facts.

I would have just updated my review with the relevant info that they gave you a free replacement and then followed up by asking you to remove your review.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by crawshaw »

neverminder wrote: post #136
ikurei wrote: post #134

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So you just helped continue the fraud? Things aren't gonna improve by complaining on HN.

There's no point in debating the moral issues when our world is anything but. It's like condemning engineers for enabling governments and corporations to spy on us and constantly erode our privacy. In this particular situation the interaction was between me and the seller. Reviews are written, edited, removed by a person that owes nothing to other potential customers.

We do owe those around us.

We are a society built on good will. The kindness of others has given me everything I value in life. It is my responsibility to pay into it.

Sometimes we cannot afford to. That is fine. A lifetime of good deeds covers moments of necessary selfishness. If this was one such moment for you, don't feel bad about it. But if you could afford to take the time and wealth to make the world better, do.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by SeanDav »

For me, Amazon used to be synonymous with quality, convenience and peace of mind. That has now changed, it is now merely convenient and subject to increasing competition. This last year I cancelled my Amazon Prime and now using Amazon far less than I used to.

Amazon has dropped the ball.

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Post by alexilliamson »

tscangussu wrote: post #178
alexilliamson wrote: post #90

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Surprised that there isn't more of a discussion about how this link is from Fox news... and right after Trump tweets about Amazon.

What is the problem about the link being from Fox News?

Fox has a serious reputation for conservative bias

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by alexilliamson »

alexilliamson wrote: post #184
tscangussu wrote: post #178

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What is the problem about the link being from Fox News?

Fox has a serious reputation for conservative bias

Which I'm not saying is necessarily a problem... just interesting. Thought it would be more of a conversation point.

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Post by mannykannot »

SwellJoe wrote: post #46

I've become more and more disillusioned by Amazon over the years. Prices are now almost never the best; I only buy from them when I need something quickly (and can't get it locally). NewEgg (nearly) always has better tech prices. Walmart often has better prices on everyday items and I can have it immediately. I just bought a pair of tweezers at my local grocery store for two bucks that was $6 on Amazon for the same m…

> I can't help but think that having more of their longtime customers starting to comparison shop is a bad thing.

Amazon's goal is to make that well-nigh impossible.

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Post by ethbro »

petra wrote: post #154
neverminder wrote: post #129

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> and the reviews aren't trustworthy the way they used to be You can say that again. I recently bought a kitchen knife with Amazon Prime that had ~100 reviews, an average of 5 stars. It cost £33, so wasn't particularly cheap. Just after I bought it the seller sent me one of those nagging emails asking for a review which I ignored. A week after they sent me another email, a copy of the first one. By the time I've alre…

It shouldn't be hard for Amazon to detect such behavior and improve it's reviews or scores. Why don't they do that?

They haven't realized it's an existential threat yet.

And to be fair, at scale, given that most people are idiots and don't know astroturf reviews exist, it might never be for them.

But they are definitely in danger of losing the people who told everyone else about "that Amazon thing."

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Post by alttab »

fusiongyro wrote: post #107
ReverseCold wrote: post #68

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So Amazon gets a list of everything you're interested in offline as well, even if you don't buy from them. Sounds like win/win for them!

Not really. He bought the product from someone else. If Amazon didn't need the money and just wanted the analytics, it would have undercut the physical store. The value of the analytics would be in the sale to another company to market to this person, but they fulfilled their need for the product when Amazon acquired the information. So it didn't benefit Amazon and by the time they could have sold it to a third-party…

Simply by looking at a product will build a user profile. It's not about making this sale, but maybe about the next 100 sales.

Re: Amazon raised Prime Day prices, misleading consumers, says vendor

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Post by Spooky23 »

ikurei wrote: post #134
neverminder wrote: post #129

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> and the reviews aren't trustworthy the way they used to be You can say that again. I recently bought a kitchen knife with Amazon Prime that had ~100 reviews, an average of 5 stars. It cost £33, so wasn't particularly cheap. Just after I bought it the seller sent me one of those nagging emails asking for a review which I ignored. A week after they sent me another email, a copy of the first one. By the time I've alre…

So you just helped continue the fraud? Things aren't gonna improve by complaining on HN.

No, things will improve when Amazon gives >0 fucks and cracks down on the practice.
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