Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

More Millennials Are Having Strokes

scientificamerican.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 192 posts

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#181

Post by nradov »

akg_67 wrote: post #118
screye wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is surprising to me, as in India a large part of the population is vegetarian. We don't seem to be susceptible to the same problems. The move away from Milk products & Eggs seems to open a huge nutrient gap that the vegan population hasn't adequately identified how to fill.

Actually, there are higher incident of B12 deficiency in Indian vegetarians as found by a study done in late 90s (sorry I don't have specific reference). Indians dont have a practice of regular/ preventive doctor visits, annual checkup and diagnostic testing. They only go to doctor when there are significant medical issues. So these issues are not found until they morph into bigger problems. I have a quite a few youn…

There is little evidence that annual checkups actually produce better health outcomes for people without serious chronic medical conditions.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#182

Post by nradov »

8note wrote: post #175
toasterlovin wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Eating meat is a fantastic last resort if you don't have enough food and your only other option is malnutrition/starvation, but it's terrible for you as anything other than a stopgap until you can eat some plants/fungi. Eating meat seems like a viable strategy for many other species, not sure why it isn't a viable one for humans as well, especially given that we seem to be highly evolved as hunters (I mean, we are,…

Which meat eating animals live into their hundreds?

Several species of Pacific rockfish.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#183

Post by toomuchtodo »

paulddraper wrote: post #179
toomuchtodo wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do employers ever get sued for having an abusive work culture?

Having a culture of ridiculous work hours is not a crime. And as long as thousands of developers handle/enjoy the game industry environment, there's no compelling reason to change.

> Having a culture of ridiculous work hours is not a crime.

But it should be, per labor law. At a minimum, its wage theft.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#184

Post by cylinder »

simonsarris wrote: post #12
weinzierl wrote: post #8

Iron deficiency anemia (IDA) has been associated with strokes in young people. IDA doesn't necessarily have pronounced symptoms and a diagnosis with a blood sample is simple and cheap. It is often considered a "female disorder" but it's only slightly more common in females than males. tldr: Have your blood checked. [1] https://www.hindawi.com/journals/crinm/2012/487080/ EDIT: As most follow up comments seem to center…

Various deficiencies are definitely a problem in my friend population, where many of them are vegans. The vegan diet is a diet of deficiencies, and since none of them are particularly careful about what they eat, I worry that it is making them all worse off. Iron and B12 may be the most obvious, but also D3, calcium, zing, animal based nutrients like creatine, and I'm sure others. Unfortunately, this becomes a touchy…

Don't forget Vitamin K2.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#185

Post by MicroBerto »

sevenfive wrote: post #135
MicroBerto wrote: post #113

My longshot theory: Molly. I've watched brilliant brains literally get ruined by the overuse of that garbage. I would bet anything that it's more dangerous than any of its users want to admit.

Do you know what a stroke is?

Yes, do you?

Funny how the downvotes and attacks come when you discuss the possibility of drug-induced brain damage in Millennials to a website full of.... drug-defending Millennials!

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#186

Post by taeric »

jbmorgado wrote: post #177
taeric wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That isn't how insurance works. To do an insurance pool, you have to have a lot of people, knowing that you won't be paying out to most of them. Otherwise, it is not insurance, but some sort of group savings/pay as you go. That is, the main variable that gets you to lower rates, is higher participation. Anything else doesn't come close. You have to let it sink in that you can not have a small subset "save up" enough…

> "That isn't how insurance works. To do an insurance pool, you have to have a lot of people, knowing that you won't be paying out to most of them. Otherwise, it is not insurance, but some sort of group savings/pay as you go." Seriously, not only this is clearly not how it works, but it actually makes zero economic sense, it doesn't work like that at all. Insurance companies have people there calculating the expected…

You are missing my main point here. In large because I did a poor job making it, so I can't even remotely be upset. :)

Insurance works by getting people to pay in to it that will not get paid out of it. Pretty much by definition. This is why we pay insurance for cars, instead of just avoiding cars. Same for title insurance. Same for life insurance. The vast majority of people that pay into these schemes do not get paid out of them.

Now, the only way you can use a pool of "healthy" people to get low costs, is to have a pool of healthy people that are not using medical procedures. You can do this by discriminating out people that need procedures, but realize this also means you discriminate out people as soon as they start to need these procedures.

Car insurance kind of works here. Many will take on "higher risk" kids for insurance. But as soon as those kids make a claim, they will refuse to re-insure them. Same with houses. Make a claim, find that you have a chance of needing to get new insurance policy.

So, for your little hypothetical. My point is take the 50 that are healthy, and have them pay lower rates. And then, as soon as one of them hits a high cost procedure, find that you don't have enough to cover it. (Just one cancer patient will blow out a pool of 50 people in a heartbeat.)

Could it work to keep costs down? Yes, but only in a way in which would not benefit you. As soon as you needed what those costs were supposed to cover, you would be kicked out of the pool.

This is like the poor sods that think they can do a health savings plan. Only if you are very wealthy, and still only if you never actually get into an accident or need it.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#187

Post by sevenfive »

MicroBerto wrote: post #185
sevenfive wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you know what a stroke is?

Yes, do you? Funny how the downvotes and attacks come when you discuss the possibility of drug-induced brain damage in Millennials to a website full of.... drug-defending Millennials!

I think molly is stupid, and would never try it. BUT molly-induced brain damage is usually hyponatremia, or a subtler form of damage to the serotonin system. not stroke.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#188

Post by Moto7451 »

nradov wrote: post #180
Moto7451 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you mean to say that veganism is a subset of vegetarianism? Omnivores by definition eat animal products. I'm typically vegetarian to suit my own wacky body chemistry and slow metabolism (tldr; lowered/normalized my blood pressure, cholesterol, lost weight etc by diet changes and exercise) and would like to underline the point you're making about finding dietary substitutes. Protein consumption was the hardest…

Has your slow metabolism been confirmed by lab tests? Many people seem to think they have a slow metabolism but very few actually do.

I suppose I don't fit the scientific definition of a slow metabolism. I clock in at around 1800 calories per day, which is within a nominal range. That said, I cannot eat the way the rest of those around me can without gaining huge amounts of weight. I've lost 100lbs and it took a lot of time to figure out that I just can't eat the same as my friends do and maintain a healthy weight.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#189

Post by MicroBerto »

sevenfive wrote: post #187
MicroBerto wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, do you? Funny how the downvotes and attacks come when you discuss the possibility of drug-induced brain damage in Millennials to a website full of.... drug-defending Millennials!

I think molly is stupid, and would never try it. BUT molly-induced brain damage is usually hyponatremia, or a subtler form of damage to the serotonin system. not stroke.

The absence of proof is not the proof of absence. Also, did I not mention "longshot theory"?

I stand by what I said and will double down in fact. Too many people melting their brains with that crap and there are almost definitely unforseen consequences of doing so.

Re: More Millennials Are Having Strokes

#190

Post by paulddraper »

fyrepuffs wrote: post #121
cmpxchg8b wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I starting working in games in the early 2000s. The first game I worked on (Black & White) had me working 16-20 hour days, 6-7 days a week for 9 months. It destroyed my health and turned me into an agoraphobic for at least a year, with related conditions lasting much longer. I've seen people have to check into mental health institutions after shipping games. At one place I worked, there was a "crack board", where the…

Ridiculous. Time for a union. The game industry is fun, but it is not worth your health, especially just to line someone else's pocket.

I think it lines your own pockets too.
Post reply on HN