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Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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The reason why I bought a bluetooth toothbrush... Phone apps...for a goddamn toothbrush. Were someone to ask me, "Mike, you do a lot of Bluetooth work, what if we BT-enabled our electric toothbrush...what kind of value could we add with that?" Because I'm horrible at coming up with creative ideas for new technologies, I'd come up with something lame like, say, maybe a "ranking system". I could add a "brushing timer",…

Sorry for the late reply. I was hacking on some code. I got the toothbrush because I am depressed/a drug addict and usually don't brush my teeth as often as I should. I was using a tracking app, but I figured since it was bluetooth I might be able to integrate it with the app I'm using for tracking. I figured it wouldn't support this out of the box, but I'm a CS/EE and figured if I was bored, it would be one more toy…

Offtopic but that was an incredibly honest answer.

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Reading about spying headphones on website where video with sound starts automatically and continues to play when pressing pause (but jumps to right corner, just like hoaxes for Windows 95 where "start" button evaded mouse) — we're living in adtechpunk world.

You don't have to put up with that. Protect yourself. Install uBlock Origin and NoScript.

AdNauseam is more fun.

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Questions this brings up: 1. What's the estimated bandwidth impact of this data collection? Many users have very limited data use, and chatty messages on play/pause/volume change wouldn't be appreciated. 2. HTTP or HTTPS? 3. How does it work with other apps (like Google Music) that might provide more music details? Like does it send more information when the id3 tags have all the fields filled in? Things like comment…

1. From the data I collected, the content of each message of is roughly 1000-2000 bytes. This is not much on it's own but over the course of a day it could end up. It appears as messages are queued and send in bulk when applicable, therefore I can't comment on bandwidth over time as the app may chunk its request. It may not even send messages when the screen is closed. 2. Everything is secured with HTTPS! All the ana…

Assuming this app uses the Segment SDK, the SDKs are open source and you can see the implementation details yourself, e.g. https://github.com/segmentio/analytics-android. There's a high level overview at https://segment.com/blog/lifecycle-of-a-mobile-message.

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Avoid Bose headphones because they're overpriced and riding off brand recognition. Avoid """"smart"""" devices made by hardware manufacturers because hardware manufacturers don't know how to write software. While I sympathize for the people who are affected by this, everyone should really avoid buying such manifestly bad products in the first place. We should really be doing our best to avoid "smart" TVs, "smart" hea…

If you have a better suggestion for bluetooth + active noise cancelling please...be my guest...

Sony MDR-1000X. Better than Bose in both ANC and sound quality in every review I've read.

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> The reason why I bought a bluetooth toothbrush was for a ranking system We are truly living in a modern fall of rome. We will choke on our bluetooth enabled toothbrushes, 700 dollar juicer machines, our fucking fitbits. We've ravaged the earth to adorn ourselves with decadent shackles and we will reap the consequences with fake tans and ultra clean teeth. In the past year I've gone from being an environmentalist to…

>reap the consequences with fake tans and ultra clean teeth. Fake tans are better than cancer and ultra clean teeth sounds like it would cut down on dental issues.

cancers come in all shapes and sizes

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Hmm, not pleased, we have two sets of the 35 earphones and I use the app - well, I have to, else I can't change some settings on the earphones. This is totally overstepping the boundaries of what earphones/headphones should be doing. Any company that collects my data and moves it from under my purview to theirs should have to display or expose this data in the exact form that it's collected to the user, so we can see…

I also have two sets, they....were... awesome. I can't believe Bose would betray users trust like that when they're known for high quality products.

Sennheiser Momentum Wireless 2 headphones have better audio quality, and no need for an app.

The downside is that ANC is on all the time, with no way to disable it. But they're actually better headphones.

Re: Bose Headphones Spy on Users, Lawsuit Says

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Hmm, not pleased, we have two sets of the 35 earphones and I use the app - well, I have to, else I can't change some settings on the earphones. This is totally overstepping the boundaries of what earphones/headphones should be doing. Any company that collects my data and moves it from under my purview to theirs should have to display or expose this data in the exact form that it's collected to the user, so we can see…

This reminds me of a bluetooth toothbrush I just bought that requires my location to be enabled to change the settings via the oral b app which is required since this model has less buttons than others. The reason why I bought a bluetooth toothbrush was for a wireless hardware clock, brushing timer, and ranking system which also really doesn't work correctly even with the app.

This reminds me of the time when a mass effect toothbrush helped save my ship from being stolen by my clone...

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It's enabled by default in Firefox.

Wow, this is awesome. Thanks for mentioning this. I've been using Firefox for months now (switched from chrome) and never knew about this feature in either browser.

When you regularly have open 100+ tabs in more than one instance of Firefox across multiple VMs, this is an absolutely indispensable feature. Before its time you would basically have to shut everything down and start over instead of finding that obscure tab that suddenly started belting out news headlines

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Enable the tab mute button that's existed in chrome for years but is still hidden: Go to URL chrome://flags in a new tab Search for the ‘Enable tab audio muting UI control’ flag Hit the ‘Enable’ link Relaunch Chrome when prompted (on Chrome OS a full restart is required) Now you can click the little speaker that appears next to the tab's close button when a tab is playing sound to stop that tab from playing audio. Go…

I wish they also had "mute all other tabs."

Sounds like a simple enough addon :)
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