Live data from Hacker News

The Mac Pro Lives

daringfireball.net

181–190 of 821 posts

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#181

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

Definitely an odd showing of desperation from Apple. But it's a good sign and maybe they realize they were about to screw something big up.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not selling it is equivalent to choosing to buy (a used) one.

Transaction costs (both the explicit "we take a percentage" kind, and the hidden ones like the risk of being ripped off) are pretty significant, so no, not really.

Not in my experience, but in any case, it's still equivalent to buying at that reduced price.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#183

I would like to point out that their research seems lacking. The industry is not "moving to one big GPU". The industry has already moved to 4, 6, or 8 "big" GPUs per station/node.

I found that comment bizarre, someone correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I've seen in my own experience and other people in my field (3D CG) multi-GPUs seem to scale ridiculously well. Seemed more of a case that no one wants to actually code for OpenCL on AMD...

Depends on the tools. RedShift for instance told us right after 10xx Nvidia cards came out that if we have lots of vertices (> 1 or 10 million - I don't remember exactly), you benefit from more RAM so get a Titan X. If you want to render anything with less, get more GPUs since you can't share RAM anyways, but the number of cores will help you.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#184
post #93

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

They likely didn't have a choice, especially as they released a speed bump today. The Mac Pro had become a bit of a joke but the iMac and MBP range was powerful enough (just enough) that the pro community would grumble more than complain. After the critical reception of the new MacBook Pro range amongst the Apple community, especially pro users, everyone was questioning Apple's commitment to pro users, and the Mac as…

Most likely the current gen speed bump and next gen redesign were both green-lit at the same time, so however long ago they started on the current update.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#185
post #5

For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

Especially since the whole virtual escape key thing– being a default layout vim user for 20+ years– I'd love to follow suit, but I need Adobe Creative Suite. The tools available on Linux aren't even ballpark. Getting OS X on a VM has always been fussy and frustrating, and if I wanted to work with Windows I'd just use a Windows laptop. On top of that, the apple magic trackpad is just great. Fussing with extracted boot…

My only vim customization is `:imap kj `.

Takes 10s to write into a .vimrc on any new computer.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#186
post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

>I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X

Specifically? People typically point to the telemetry and forced updates, but I've managed to disable both, using what were admittedly much-too-difficult procedures or third-party software. It's annoying, but not that annoying.

I really like Finder and Spotlight, but not enough to be tied, via licensing, to any specific hardware.

Less cluttering--I can uninstall apps on windows

Native package manager-- I guess Windows has Chocolatey and I use npm for dev work.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#187
post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had you built a hackintosh before? Any major negative experiences with compatibility / updates?

Been running hackintoshes since 2007 or so. Mostly smooth sailing. Off the top of my head: - It's all about making it easy for yourself. In short, motherboard and GPU choice change the experience from 'almost effortless' to 'never gonna work'. Get a $20 USB external soundcard to get rid of any audio configuration quagmires. Get the most compatible, widely used motherboard and Nvidia GPU, so you can get support on Ton…

OTOH, being on the bleeding edge of MacOS and being productive never really mixed :)

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple said entire point of the redesign is to make the machine modular, so that it can be upgraded down the line, specifically addressing this concern. I guess it's up to each person to determine for themselves whether to believe it.

Modular so you can upgrade it only with Apple parts?

Have they ever limited upgrades to Apple parts on a machine before?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#189
This might be too little, too late. They should do what they did with the Intel transition; start selling PCs which can run Mac OS X as an interim measure.

Why might they not do this?

a) makes them look bad

b) well... is there a CPU architecture transition coming up? Last time there was this performance block, it was time to move from PowerPC.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

#190
post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I love Mac OS but it gets regular updates and which each update, it's more demanding. The hardware needs to keep up. Try running IOS 7 on a Gen 3 iPhone.
Post reply on HN