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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by michaelbrooks »

marvindanig wrote: post #123
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Also there was reason why Steve Jobs was against all tablet sizes except one. At the time Apple was going after revolutionizing the education market and the 9.7" iPad1/2 fit the bill for that purpose exactly. Then came the iPad mini whose sole purpose was to increase business bottom-line… and then a few more models based on other focuses or potential uses. Meh. Moral of story: Do not destroy the initial momentum and…

What I find kind of funny is Windows has gone through this exact issue with their Windows Phone platform.

The Lumia lineup started out okay with a flagship device (920) and mid to high range device (820) a mid-range device (620) and a low end device (520) and a nice photographer device (1020). Things started getting really blurry with things like 925, 930, 635, 730 (can't remember them all) and suddenly a lower number device actually had better spec or almost similar to a higher number device, or the specs were so close together that it looked really confusing. Not to mention people begging for certain models to be upgraded and it never happening meant angry customers.

To me, it looks like Apple is slowly making the same mistake albeit a lot slower. You would have thought they were paying attention and wouldn't go down this route.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Someone1234 »

gtirloni wrote: post #84

How can they justify the extra $130 for a cellular chip and antenna?

And patents. People always forget the patent fees you have to pay for cellular service.

Now granted it is still a huge profit margin, and if it was just a standard feature they could likely do it for under $20 across the line, but there's likely more money in acting like it is a premium thing.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Kurtz79 »

throwanem wrote: post #88
constantlm wrote: post #11

Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

Or, in my case, a YouTube player comfortable enough to use in bed. I had such plans - a laptop replacement, a smart drawing and writing tablet, a conveniently portable development tool...none of which came to fruition, because the technology wasn't yet there. I'm a little tempted, now, by the iPad Pro and the Pencil. It sure would be more comfortable and convenient to retouch photos that way than with a mouse or a tr…

"Or, in my case, a YouTube player comfortable enough to use in bed."

In my case Youtube, Netflix, Twitch, as well as web browsing.

And also "everywhere I move about in the house", not only in bed.

I have zero use for it as a "productive" tool, but it's the best media consumption device I ever had, it has replaced my laptop for every use aside from creative/office work and gaming.

It doesn't do everything, but for what it does it's a great device.

I can see the problem for Apple though: if not for a cracked screen, I would have no reason to upgrade my 2+ years old iPad Air 2, since it is still more than good enough for all of the above.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by plg »

the news here isn't the new specs but the price point, which is low

apple is trying to expand their market share in the tablet space even more

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by unprepare »

trymas wrote: post #144
pdpi wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Plus the iPad Mini 7.9". As a 9.7 Pro owner, the differences between the 9.7 Pro and the regular iPad are quite important. I just wish they made the comparison easier, though.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/ I think that's pretty good comparison. Reminds me of iPhone SE - make a product from older tech, where all manufacturing is cheap and smooth as ever and sell it as cheapest option (I imagine with still veeery big markup).

17 different prices and no clear indication of what use case each is for.

the 12.9 inch is the most expensive, but doesnt seem to have the best specs?

Do i need an A9x or will an A9 suffice?

Why does the 9.7 inch pro come in rose gold but not the 12 inch?

the two 9.7 inch tablets are different sizes, how will i know which case to buy or if this ipad will fit into my current case?

do i need a fully laminated display and antireflective coating? because the 9.7 inch ipad does not have these things but all other models do.

Which one will work with my existing data plan? I see that the 9.7 inch pro comes with an embedded sim, does that mean i cant replace it with my own sim? They also all seem to support different LTE bands, am i expected to know which LTE bands my provider uses before i purchase an ipad?

Just my thoughts after looking at this page for two minutes.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Larrikin »

I've gotten a lot of use out of my iPad 3 and, up until it stopped getting updates and the touch screen started breaking down in the past few months, found no reason to upgrade or replace it. I use it nearly daily but mostly for reading textbooks and novels, reviewing language cards, and occasionally watching YouTube videos. It's been extremely useful for taking to the gym and allowing me to study while on the elliptical.

But I got it in a different time. There weren't many tablets available at the time and a retina screen was critical for small text. As I've looked around recently, it's become very hard to justify getting a new iPad over something like the surface.

How do people justify the purchase in 2017? Seriously asking as I am looking to replace my iPad with something in the next few weeks.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by simonh »

icantdrive55 wrote: post #50
simonh wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use mine every day. It's turned my 2 hour train commute each day into wonderfully valuable time. I've written many thousands of words on it and thousands of lines of code. When I was job hunting last year I did several coding exercises on it in Pythonista. It's one of the most productive computers I've ever owned. Although Sid Meier's Starships is sucking away a bit of my time lately.

What apps do you use to program? I'm too lasy to look it up. Sad--I know. I wouldn't mind front-end programing on my iPad 2, but found it tedious years ago. I remember thinking this will not work--for real work.

Pythonista. It has a syntax-highlighting code editor, integrated visual UI builder, a slew of third party Python modules baked in and a thriving community. There is also now a Python 3 compatible version. You can even use the share sheet from another app to send files to Pythonista and select a script to process the file.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ceejayoz »

FroshKiller wrote: post #174
ungzd wrote: post #161

Immediately googled "9.7 inch in cm" because it's hard to imagine size in proprietary units used in only one country. But then encountered "1 lb., 7.5 mm" on the website. That's unit trolling. They should've used megahartleys per decimal second for LTE speed.

There is nothing proprietary about the inch. It's 2.54 cm. We don't have a secret "reference inch" kept under lock and key that everyone else has to ape with reverse engineering or anything. And it's used with great success in more countries than just the U.S.

> And it's used with great success in more countries than just the U.S.

Myanmar and Liberia? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_system#/media/File:Metr...

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by Someone1234 »

constantlm wrote: post #11

Hmmm. Most people I know who own iPads have had them end up as rather expensive children's toys.

iPads are absolutely fantastic for children, not even kidding...

Between Guided Access and Restrictions, I can hand an iPad to my two year old and not have to worry. Plus then throw on high quality children's apps (most of which are educational) and YouTube Kids, and you have a wonderful platform for children.

Parents could do much worse than to hand their kids an iPad. Certainly can be more engaging than throwing them in front of a TV for the same period (not that either TV or an iPad is a substitute for one on one play time, but sometimes adults need a break too).

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