Iranian MIT student goes home over break, denied return for spring semester

Post by tptacek » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 11:40 PM UTC

aomurphy wrote: post #154

WildUtah wrote: post #146

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Up to this point, it has been possible for supporters and apologists to waive away his vague or careless remarks during the campaign as political rhetoric, jokes, or leverage for future negotiation. Now we start to see the mean (in every sense of the word) instinct that informed them and the harm they can do. If you poll this issue, you'll find at least 80% of Americans don't care how inconvenient our immigration pol…

A majority of Americans want to allow refugees from Muslim countries, including Syria: http://www.voanews.com/a/poll-americans-divided-along-party-... Democrats (who voted 89% for Hillary) are strongly in support. Overall 59% of Americans believe immigrants make the country stronger: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/15/americans-vi...

Post by cmurf » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 11:41 PM UTC

daxorid wrote: post #79

intro-b wrote: post #2

How this is happening, the exact trajectory of how much worse these things are (and its potential to worsen) is somewhat terrifying, especially when you consider the cavalier disregard and easy ignorance that this policy represents. I know classmates and colleagues and friends who are discussing, in their groups and communities, how to best help people stranded, whether or not vacations and returns to see ill family…

Terrifying, how? This is what Trump promised, and the reason we voted for him. Half of us are quite happy to see campaign promises actually implemented. HN is acting as if this was capricious and unplanned. In fact, it's what half of us wanted.

Post by kawera » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 11:43 PM UTC

ImTalking wrote: post #45

It's so easy to see the outcome of these policies. Intolerance begats intolerance begats violence. There can be no other outcome other than an increase in violence, both domestic and international. And what will Trump do when the violence increases? He will whip the masses up with frenzied speeches and double-down on the executive orders to limit immigration. But the violence will not abate but will worsen. So finall…

Post by jpatokal » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 11:47 PM UTC

bajsejohannes wrote: post #173

WildUtah wrote: post #155

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US citizens can visit Iran—at Iranian discretion—with a state minder the same way US citizens can travel to North Korea. You can't travel freely and you can't travel without personal scrutiny ('extreme vetting') from Iranian officials.

Citation? I know from personal experience that this is not the case for non-US citizens.

Post by nl » Sat, Jan 28, 2017, 11:48 PM UTC

berberous wrote: post #99

klenwell wrote: post #60

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> executed with little to no foresight, warning, or serious consideration, with serious consequences I think it is easy to underestimate the ugliness and disorder such a reckless executive order can unleash unless you start to think about the details or put yourself in the shoes of the people affected. NBC News reports[0]: The Trump administration also has yet to issue guidance to airports and airlines on how to impl…

I'm against this order and generally agree with you, but the conflict-of-interest article is BS. The list of countries is the same as was targeted under Obama for extra screening: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/visa-waiver-libya-somali...