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Nylas Mail is now free

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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

kuschku wrote: post #164
parfe wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an absurd comment venting your personal gripes with US Law onto someone's product. Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs? In what way is Nylas reducing your privacy?

> Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs? Quoting >> You actually can add any IMAP server Well, my own server?

And in that case, you can surely run your own Nylas sync engine server alongside it. Which still adds no new security issues with using Nylas.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by Fnoord »

parfe wrote: post #36
Tepix wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So it's closed source, by a US company (subject to NSLs, violating foreigners rights etc) and they get a copy of all my mails? At least that's what it sounds like.

This is an absurd comment venting your personal gripes with US Law onto someone's product. Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs? In what way is Nylas reducing your privacy?

It is not absurd.

A normal e-mail client doesn't suffer from this issue. Only if the user is hosting their e-mail traffic inside the US. You may think that's true for everyone, but that is your own bubble or tunnel vision. Say, you are working at the EP (European Parlement). You use Mozilla Thunderbird for your e-mail. Some of the e-mail you receive is internal from your party. The SMTP and IMAP server is hosted in your European country. Then, one day you switch from Mozilla Thunderbird to Nylas N1. Suddenly, your e-mail is not hosted in the EU anymore, and the US government can use a NSL to read your private data. You may not give a rat about this (and if you're from US I can fully understand), that's your discretion. Others do, and their viewpoint is not 'absurd'.

> Which supported service is not already running in the USA and subject to NSLs?

Any SMTP and IMAP server not hosted in the USA. You know, you don't have to use Gmail.

(Nylas Mail doesn't suffer from this problem. Only a few features still require Nylas servers.)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by [deleted] »

thatcat wrote: post #178
jcranmer wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless your recipients use email clients that don't load remote http images except on demand. I can think of one email client with ~15 million users that does that.

Which client blocks remote images by default? Is it a cli or gui?

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Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by JelteF »

thatcat wrote: post #178
jcranmer wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless your recipients use email clients that don't load remote http images except on demand. I can think of one email client with ~15 million users that does that.

Which client blocks remote images by default? Is it a cli or gui?

I think he meant Gmail

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by rogerbinns »

thatcat wrote: post #178
jcranmer wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless your recipients use email clients that don't load remote http images except on demand. I can think of one email client with ~15 million users that does that.

Which client blocks remote images by default? Is it a cli or gui?

Thunderbird, gui.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by e0m »

nkkollaw wrote: post #166

How is this different than Mail and every other email client in existence? Don't get me wrong, it looks extremely good. However, I visited the site and immediately clicked on the back button. I've been using Google Inbox for a few months, and it radically changed how I handle my many mailboxes. It's not rare now that I actually achieve inbox zero. I would love to see the same amount of innovation that was put into Go…

Nylas Mail Basic and Nylas Pro are all built on an open source, highly extensible, modern platform. This lets us deliver a very familiar clean experience out of the box while supporting the ability to add an enormous number of very powerful features very quickly.

Everyone uses email slightly differently. The plugins allow us to build Salesforce integration, tracking, templates, and mail merge for sales people, while offering an entirely different targeted set for other users.

We intentionally "don't move the cheese to far" from existing clients to ease transition. There are a lot of grand ideas for radically different email experiences that fall flat due to their deviation from the core experiences most people expect and need. We instead believe that a handful of targeted features to a targeted group gradually develop into a very different way to interact with email for a very specific use case.

(I'm an engineer at Nylas)

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by sethhochberg »

I've tried it, I wanted to love it, but man was the self-hosted sync engine a pain in the ass. Seemed like this was a totally second-class offering from Nylas, there were several known bugs where the client had problems syncing with self-hosted engines and the response was seemingly "we know this is a problem with self-hosted sync engines, we'll try to fix it eventually". A fair enough response to me as a nonpaying user who didn't want their cloud offering, but certainly enough to get me to stop using their open source offerings as my email client.

Re: Nylas Mail is now free

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Post by spang »

compuguy wrote: post #168
grinich wrote: post #21

Hey HN-- I'm the author of this post. Feel free to post questions! We are a very small team building this app. Hopefully you can focus on what's new/good and not what is left to do! :) If you find bugs, please post them here: https://github.com/nylas/n1/issues/

What happened to the keybase/pgp plugin? Is that a pro only feature?

It didn't make it into this release because we wanted to focus on making the base mail experience solid first, but it should be back soon!
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