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Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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I feel like this is a stunt. Drone delivery only works with customers that have private backyards - so won't work in a city, since the payload is unsecured after the drones drop it off. In a suburban/rural context, density is lower, meaning that with the limited range of drones, distribution centers won't be able to take advantage of density. Thus the range of products available at each distribution center will be mu…

They ordered a fire tv and popcorn. Of course it's a stunt!

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Vacations are already being soiled by people flying loud drones in areas of natural beauty, now we get to have our day-to-day skies soiled by fleets of drones delivering popcorn. Am I the only one who doesn't want this specifically because of the noise nuisance?

Agreed on the perceived futility of these efforts. Even Amazon knows its silly: "First starting with 2 customers and the moving to DOZENS!" Woo hoo good job guys! But first can we please solve the leafblower problem? Modern american suburbia is already ruined by an almost constant 120dB buzz and pollution & smell of cheap 2-stroke engine exhaust.

Amen. Some asshole in my (urban) neighborhood setup halogen painter lights and was leaf blowing at midnight a week ago.

Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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I feel like this is a stunt. Drone delivery only works with customers that have private backyards - so won't work in a city, since the payload is unsecured after the drones drop it off. In a suburban/rural context, density is lower, meaning that with the limited range of drones, distribution centers won't be able to take advantage of density. Thus the range of products available at each distribution center will be mu…

Cities seem like the easiest challenge to tackle. Amazon could work with commercial and residential high rises and put a dock on their rooftops. So, the drone approaches the building rooftop, puts the package in the docking area (that keeps out poor weather), and then flies away. One of the receptionists could then get a notification of a new package, pick it up, and either put it in the appropriate mailbox, or hold…

Amazon already has an "Amazon Locker"[1] service in selected areas. Drone delivery could certainly be integrated with some of those.

[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Locker

Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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I feel like this is a stunt. Drone delivery only works with customers that have private backyards - so won't work in a city, since the payload is unsecured after the drones drop it off. In a suburban/rural context, density is lower, meaning that with the limited range of drones, distribution centers won't be able to take advantage of density. Thus the range of products available at each distribution center will be mu…

Why does this argument keep coming up? "This product will fail because less than 100% of people can make use of it" I see the same thing all the time for electric cars: "Won't work, because not everyone has a garage for charging".

What new product ever had an addressable market of 6 billion people on launch? Do people not realize that you can still have a successful product even if your market is limited to 100 million customers?

Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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This sounds interesting but there are at least some problems to overcome to make it practical. How does the drone identify apartment 5b from 4c? Most balconies like that in my area (Omaha) have another balcony on the next floor up in roughly the same size and shape. How reliable are the flight algorithms when dealing with cielings? How does that affect airflow? What happens when a drone gets the wrong balcony? What h…

My preferred solution for a variety of these is that you buy a transmitter from Amazon, and the drone tries to home in on it once it gets to your address. The ideal transmitter would be wide and flat, so the drone can just drop packages on it, and so any place you could fit it also has a reasonable chance of having enough clearance. You could incentivize buying them using the same mechanics as Amazon's dash buttons.…

The thing could even fold up for easy storage. If it could unfold to be a square a meter in size (or a bit larger) then Amazon could get even to the point where they land or hover just above.

It could have tiny legs and the actual target area could be a foot above the ground and it could be a net (so the wind the drone makes blows through harmlessly). Then it can catch a package dropped from a few feet.

Amazon, you have my written permission to use this idea and sell me this product.

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Don't worry, I predict drone sniping will become a new favorite vandalism of the youth. For those on the more nefarious side, theft from drones will probably be common. Bring it down in your vicinity, take the payload.

Any youth who can hit a small object 400ft away moving 50mph has far more lucrative options than drone theft.

What about using a drone to take down another drone? Also, a drone need not be taken down by physically attacking it. Its command and control system could conceivably be hacked.

Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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I live in an urban area in the US. UPS, FedEx, and the USPS all drop my packages off unsecured at my front door as it is. What difference does it make whether it's a person in a truck or a drone doing it? As an Amazon Prime member, I sometimes use Prime Now to get deliveries made in two hours from a limited selection of products, and that requires a minimum order and a delivery surcharge. It's still a great option th…

USP, FedEx and the USPS all leave your packages in unsecured areas. These drones would have to literally drop your packages off in a city. Those are very different actions. The logistics of even getting close enough to the ground to not obliterate your package, in an open enough area, while avoiding people and other obstacles (both stationary and moving) is a nonstarter for even small cities imo. Good luck in NYC.

On the contrary, I sell things online (and through Amazon) and it's common advice that we sellers treat packages as if they will be thrown/dropped, because during shipping they often are. More expensive products tend to have more padding since it's cheaper to add more airbags in than replace the product. And Amazon is of course incentive to not have products break all the time either, their customers wouldn't trust it anymore if it did. From my viewpoint as a seller, customer trust is a huge issue to Amazon. I've seen many high dollar accounts get shut down for potential trust issues.

Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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Agreed on the perceived futility of these efforts. Even Amazon knows its silly: "First starting with 2 customers and the moving to DOZENS!" Woo hoo good job guys! But first can we please solve the leafblower problem? Modern american suburbia is already ruined by an almost constant 120dB buzz and pollution & smell of cheap 2-stroke engine exhaust.

My prediction within the next 10 years, a majority of jurisdictions will ban 2-stroke leaf blowers. Electric leaf blowers are a thing now. A combination of pollution control and noise control, along with a viable alternative, will gather enough support for these bans. (I’m not sure what portion of leaf blower noise is caused by the fan vs. the engine. I suspect even if the fan creates the larger component, it’s proba…

What's wrong with a rake?

And maybe also a tarp if there is some distance to move the leaves.

Re: Amazon has made its first drone delivery to an actual customer

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Matching the video to the local geography, looks like it starts at Heath Farm: https://binged.it/2hPbvaN

There's an implication in the story and some comments that this is a rural location, but it's quite close to Cambridge - ARM's HQ is only about 2 miles away. It's open country between ARM and Heath Farm, but as Cambridge airport isn't much further, deliveries there might be a bit tricky.

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