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Saying that all people are created equally does not mean that all people are free from error or consequence.
Right, what about those who claim being homosexual is a choice? To blur the line more, what about killers who are insane?
A thought: Alan Turing died when he was 41. Anything Turing would have invented between 41 and his natural death are things lost to society because of the persecution of homosexuals. What an incredible cost.
I didn't even know he was a homosexual. Nor does it matter.
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> I have never encountered a rational argument for homophobia. From parents and close relatives it is easy to see a evolutionary reason. However from unrelated males (more common) it would seem that they would have every reason to encourage homosexuality in other males. Maybe it comes from when most people who lived together were related.
From parents and close relatives it is easy to see a evolutionary reason Which is not a rational reason. That would be the naturalistic fallacy.
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Women's: Women make less than men on average. They also make very different choices of what jobs to work in, how many hours to work The problem is not that women make less than men on average, they often make less than men when doing the exact same job, for the exact same hours. and they are much more likely to have interruptions in their career. Did you read the thread about job hoppers, where many men said that job…
The problem is not that women make less than men on average, they often make less than men when doing the exact same job, for the exact same hours. I am really suspicious of this, because it simply doesn't match my own experience. I've worked behind a bar, I've been a lifeguard, I've done a few jobs in hi-tech and equality is the norm. Here in the UK the Office of National Statistics ripped apart Harriet Harman's fig…
Dutch research indicated that a big part of the 20% difference is because of the choices women make (though of course, it is still open for debate whether those choices are always true choices), but even accounting for that there was still a 7% difference that couldn't be explained (of course they also accounted for hours worked). This is a Dutch page with lots of info http://www.loonwijzer.nl/home/vrouwenloonwijzer/beloningsver...
It does say that the Netherlands is a bit worse than other European countries.
Also: I think some technical explanatins as to why it is "logical" that women earn less are nonsense. It makes no sense to penalize a women because she had two babies six and four years ago and therefore was out of the workplace for a few months if there is no objective difference in quality of work today.
I don't think danger has anything to do with pay. If it did, firefighters would earn a lot more than IT consultants. I also don't think responsibility has anything to do with it. If it did daycare workers would earn a lot more than programmers.
And I have never met a regular employee who honestly worked more than 50/hrs a week (in one job). In every case they could have done the work in 40 hours but they slacked off during the day (because nobody can stay focused for 10 hours a day every day). I had a parttime job once, but I never, ever browsed the internet on company time even though all the "hard working" 100+ euro/hour consultants were checking the popular weblogs all day long. But then those consultants go on record as working so many hours and therefore people apparently think it is logical that they earn more money per hour than me, a lowly parttime employee.
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So a straight couple who can't have kids should be barred from using a surrogate?
Sure, I believe that no person should be conceived with the deliberate intention of one or both of his/her genetic parents* playing a fully meaningful parenting role in his/her life. *or gestational mother in the case of a non-traditional surrogate
I'd say that geeks tend to think about their environment a lot more than other people because geeks tend to think about systems in general. I have never encountered a rational argument for homophobia. Gay people seem to me to be just as likely to be virtuous or decadent as straight people. Discriminating against people for having a different sexual orientation seems totally irrational to me. As far as I'm concerned,…
The thought that a man might have such desire toward them terrifies them. Essentially, they're scared that a man might do to them (or want to do to them) what they want to be able to do to women.
Obviously, this is ridiculous and irrational-- there's no epidemic of gay men raping other men, and straight men are overwhelmingly more likely to be raped by otherwise straight men than by gays-- but I think that's what is behind this rather absurd fear some men have of homosexuality.
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Luckily, plenty of gay couples have tried raising kids, and they do just fine, thank you very much. :) http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbt/resources/parenting.aspx "Beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents likewise have no empirical foundation."
I have no doubt that many gay couples do quite well at raising children. I would however put those cases were one of the biological parents was present in a different category to what we are talking about (which I suspect is your case). > "Beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents likewise have no empirical foundation." As I argued in my post, most studies are likely to effected by selection bias so it…
We shouldn't do either of those options, they are both total horseshit. It's not a matter of what rule we should adopt, it's a matter of should we adopt a rule at all. And no, we shouldn't.
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Right, what about those who claim being homosexual is a choice? To blur the line more, what about killers who are insane?
If homosexuality is a choice, then i don't understand why not more people choose it - it is fabulous.
Would it be unbecoming of me to suggest that some readers of this thread might be interested in visiting http://GayGeeks.org ? It is a not-for-profit side venture of mine.