Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers • Hacker News Board

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by EugeneOZ » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 5:24 AM UTC

dlp211 wrote: post #178

EugeneOZ wrote: post #147

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What model of AMD can replace GTX 1080?

Not sure if this was rhetorical or not, but if it isn't, none of them. The 1070 and 1080 stand in a class of their own. AMD won't have a competitive card in these class until Q1 2017 which will be about the same time that the 1080ti drops. I honestly don't care about this, these threads always attract those who value privacy above all else and believe that every should play on their terms. Most people do not care, an…

I asked just in case if I missed something and AMD secretly developed competitive card.

After huge annoyance with required login in GeForce, this story will 100% convince me to uninstall it and check updates manually.

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by brokenmachine » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 5:28 AM UTC

slededit wrote: post #121

LinuxBender wrote: post #8

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I blocked their telemetry and not I can't even update my drivers. Not through windows update, nor through their installer. It hangs trying to talk back to them. No harm, no foul, probably time to give AMD cards a chance. Variety is the spice of life and the spice must flow.

On my last box I found the AMD drivers were injecting a DLL into almost every process - including the brand new program I was in the process of developing.

Can someone ELI5 what injecting a DLL does, how they did it, and what they might have been using it for?

I know with my old Nvidia drivers, you can add extra icons for window management to every window (move to next monitor, etc). Would this be using DLL injection?

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by awinter-py » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 5:37 AM UTC

Even if we outlaw phone-home for information-gathering, automatic updates have to upload information about your architecture in order to download binaries.

I don't think anybody is suggesting at this point we ditch automatic updates -- the consensus seems to be they fix more problems than they cause. So this is going to remain a problem.

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by vsl » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 6:28 AM UTC

grzm wrote: post #180

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #179

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Paying for email sounds weird to most people these days, but now that I do, I'd never have it any other way again.

I'm days away from moving to fastmail. May I ask what service you're currently using? Are you happy with it?

Not parent, but I too am paying for email for years and am very happy with FastMail. You can see a lot of work is going into it lately now that they're independent again. Can't recommend them enough.

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by vsl » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 6:36 AM UTC

random_rr wrote: post #62

brink wrote: post #6

On a related note; I can't even use NVidia's "Geforce Experience" any more without logging in. Thanks for that, NVidia. Just what I wanted; a driver tool that forces me to log in.

Holy moly, I thought that this post was a joke for sure - and then I checked out GeForce Experience. Uninstalled. Never to be reinstalled. AMD will be my next card. Thanks nVidia for letting me know what you think of me :)

I wouldn't recommend that. AMD's software quality is horrible, and I'm saying that as an iMac user stuck with them on Windows. Whatever you think of nVidia, it's a breath of fresh air to see such polished auxiliary tools -- and yes, I think GeForce Experience is good... why? Living with AMD crap for years.

And if you think nVidia treats customers/users badly, just watch AMD's treatment of Apple hardware. They added artificial blocks preventing the "normal" driver from installing there (even though it is fully functional) and you have to use a special Bootcamp driver, which is incredibly outdated and buggy as hell in modern games. Their support is about as useful as you expect in a big corporation, and then some. It's so bad that enthusiasts are re-packaging AMD's drivers to have something: https://www.mxdriver.com

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by ocdtrekkie » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 7:03 AM UTC

grzm wrote: post #180

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #179

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Paying for email sounds weird to most people these days, but now that I do, I'd never have it any other way again.

I'm days away from moving to fastmail. May I ask what service you're currently using? Are you happy with it?

FastMail, indeed, and I love it. Something insanely gratifying about being able to file support tickets and rapidly get answers for an email service.

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by grzm » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 7:05 AM UTC

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #186

grzm wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm days away from moving to fastmail. May I ask what service you're currently using? Are you happy with it?

FastMail, indeed, and I love it. Something insanely gratifying about being able to file support tickets and rapidly get answers for an email service.

Thanks!

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by grzm » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 7:05 AM UTC

vsl wrote: post #184

grzm wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm days away from moving to fastmail. May I ask what service you're currently using? Are you happy with it?

Not parent, but I too am paying for email for years and am very happy with FastMail. You can see a lot of work is going into it lately now that they're independent again. Can't recommend them enough.

Thanks!

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by Zahreddine » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 7:22 AM UTC

drivebyops wrote: post #153

Fej wrote: post #142

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Use OBS instead.

Shadow play has that record last X minutes feature that OBS doesn't I think

OBS does, OBS studio doesn't.

It's replay buffer where you start the replay buffer and it will keep the last n seconds of footage in a buffer. You set a keybind to save that buffer to file.

https://obsproject.com/forum/resources/obs-classic-how-to-us...

Re: Nvidia adds telemetry to latest drivers

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Post by imtringued » Mon, Nov 07, 2016, 7:30 AM UTC

slededit wrote: post #121

LinuxBender wrote: post #8

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I blocked their telemetry and not I can't even update my drivers. Not through windows update, nor through their installer. It hangs trying to talk back to them. No harm, no foul, probably time to give AMD cards a chance. Variety is the spice of life and the spice must flow.

On my last box I found the AMD drivers were injecting a DLL into almost every process - including the brand new program I was in the process of developing.

You can uncheck Plays.tv/Raptr/AMD Gaming Evolved during the installation or uninstall it after the fact. It's seperate from the drivers.