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Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by masklinn »

cynix wrote: post #156
masklinn wrote: post #68

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> Well if US sales taxes are as low as 0% then I think it IS a fair comparison. That's completely nonsensical, Apple doesn't decide where you live and they don't set how much VAT to apply, they've got a "manufacturer price" and add VAT on top.

> That's completely nonsensical, Apple doesn't decide where you live and they don't set how much VAT to apply The point is that it is possible to buy it somewhere in the US without tax, whereas no such method exists in the EU.

Saying that you don't want to pay VAT is not a point.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by Corrado »

I have two problems with the new keyboard/touch bar layout. One, the ESC key is not on the far left of the touch bar - it ignores the "Mile High Menubar" concept. Now instead of just reaching up and blindly smashing the top-most left-most key on the keyboard, I have to look down to find the ESC key that's close to, but not quite in, the upper lefthand corner of the keyboard area.

The other problem is that they left in the Fn key. Why would I need a Fn key when I have a touch bar? Maybe we can map ESC to the Fn key. :/

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by slgeorge »

tmikaeld wrote: post #135
sakopov wrote: post #32

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Not an Apple fan by any means but I've just gotten tired of the poor build quality of Windows laptops and terrible battery life year after year. So I've been patiently waiting to upgrade my 3-years-old XPS to a MBP. Heard that the price range will likely be fairly close to the old generation of MBP. Well, what i saw today is just too cost-prohibitive for very little reason. I'm now hoping that Surface Book or the new…

I'm in the same boat. I've been lifting any virtual rock for any decent affordable development laptop that isn't two generations old with a bad CPU (Read Celeron or Atom). But there aren't any, there's only the 600€ range and up. Then comes Apple, which I've been waiting for - I have the Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. But for this price and with no 32GB RAM upgrade possibilities and 8GB RAM for 220€? No... Just NO. Thi…

> I'm going to try Linux for the iftiest time.

When you do that please, please buy something where it's preloaded onto the system (e.g. Dell XPS) so that you get the same sort of hardware/software experience that you get from the integrated apple. It will cut out so much fiddling and possibilities of a terrible experience!

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by pareidolia »

SysArchitect wrote: post #39

As a professional software dev/system architect using MacBook Pro's, I am excited about the new MacBook Pro. I'll miss the SD card for my amateur photography, but I'll live. It's still got the 3.5mm for my headphones, with USB-C hopefully daisy chaining non Apple displays will finally become a reality, and thankfully my work has upgraded to using wireless technology for displaying screens in conference rooms (which w…

I think the real "killer feature" of this screen will be distracting the user. I already experience this with my phone lighting up when it's lying at the bottom of my screen.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by rorykoehler »

dloose wrote: post #165
jitbit wrote: post #120

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It all comes down to this: NOW I HAVE LOOK AT THE KEYBOARD. For example, as a developer I press the ESC button zillion times a day. I'm used to "upper-left corner is cancel/close/undo". Now with the new touchbar it can have an "OK" there. Or "Done". Or "edit". It's up to a developer now.

As a developer do you not use an external mouse, keyboard, and display?

I use laptop and display. Laptop keyboard and trackpad are perfect. The mac trackpad is the best available and I will miss it now that this release has convinced me to go full linux.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by zimpenfish »

sbalea wrote: post #160
jontro wrote: post #98

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You can get one of these USB-C cables with magnetic locks https://griffintechnology.com/us/breaksafe-magnetic-usb-c-po...

This adaptor is rated at 60W. The 15" MBP charges at 85W

The new MacBook is 61W for both 13" and 15" variants - https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro/specs/

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by amatheus »

masklinn wrote: post #133
randomsofr wrote: post #95

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> I have been using Caps lock for escape for years I didn't knew people were doing that :O, whats the benefit?, and how do you turn on caps?

> I didn't knew people were doing that :O I rebind mine to control. > whats the benefit? Control is an actually useful key, in Emacs specifically but also in OSX in general as all OSX controls have emacs-ish chords support (e.g. C-a C-e for start and end of line). Having Control on a large well-placed key is more convenient than have it on a small key in the corner, and I've literally no use for capslock. > how do yo…

All the time I see people saying they never want caps lock. I develop in Java and it's convention to have constants be caps lock; other languages do something similar too. In that case what would be the solution without caps lock, typing each character holding shift? I think I'll try it to see how it goes but sounds weird to me.

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by tmikaeld »

slgeorge wrote: post #183
tmikaeld wrote: post #135

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I'm in the same boat. I've been lifting any virtual rock for any decent affordable development laptop that isn't two generations old with a bad CPU (Read Celeron or Atom). But there aren't any, there's only the 600€ range and up. Then comes Apple, which I've been waiting for - I have the Macbook Air and Macbook Pro. But for this price and with no 32GB RAM upgrade possibilities and 8GB RAM for 220€? No... Just NO. Thi…

> I'm going to try Linux for the iftiest time. When you do that please, please buy something where it's preloaded onto the system (e.g. Dell XPS) so that you get the same sort of hardware/software experience that you get from the integrated apple. It will cut out so much fiddling and possibilities of a terrible experience!

Thanks for the advice, that's actually the exact modell i plan on getting. But I was unsure if it was a modern CPU, seemed dated? Or are the newer XPS also called XPS?

The worst thing was that the linux version cost 2x more than the normal one here in Sweden...

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by RankingMember »

masklinn wrote: post #148
RankingMember wrote: post #45

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I think they're screwing with the kwijibo[0] too much and will end up with a professional user base that won't be large enough in number for accessory manufacturers to care. [0] kwijibo means product

> [0] kwijibo means product I'm on to your lies, boyo.

:)

Re: Apple, this time you made a mistake

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Post by progman »

JoshMnem wrote: post #177
SysArchitect wrote: post #39

As a professional software dev/system architect using MacBook Pro's, I am excited about the new MacBook Pro. I'll miss the SD card for my amateur photography, but I'll live. It's still got the 3.5mm for my headphones, with USB-C hopefully daisy chaining non Apple displays will finally become a reality, and thankfully my work has upgraded to using wireless technology for displaying screens in conference rooms (which w…

Very strange. What are Vim users going to do without the ESC key? Ctrl-c and ctrl-[ don't work in some Vim emulation tools or for browser extensions that provide Vim keybindings. Function keys are important for some things. F1 (help), F5 (reload page), F11 (full screen), F12 (browser dev tools), shift-F2 (Firefox terminal), alt-F4 (close window), etc.. I almost bought a Macbook in August, but I decided to get a Think…

> What are Vim users going to do without the ESC key?

They have the pleasure to install an additional ESC server which simulates the ESC key with an ios device :-)

https://github.com/brianmichel/ESCapey

It's amazing that Apple considers the backquote/tilde key so much more important than the ESC key.

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