At first glance, it looks huge. But then, honestly, when you just consider vast benefit all of us are getting from them, this is nothing and probably should be funded on a higher level. Like 10-15M.
What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt
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#182Earlier quoted context omitted.
people who seriously know how to code mission critical X.590 root CA PKI infrastructure are not cheap when you're looking at total benefits/compensation per head.
Creating a certificate is easy.
It sure is! Just go to https://letsencrypt.org
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#183If any LE staff are in here, I'd happily chip in on a Patreon.
You can donate directly, either once off or recurring monthly - https://letsencrypt.org/donate/
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#184Earlier quoted context omitted.
people who seriously know how to code mission critical X.590 root CA PKI infrastructure are not cheap when you're looking at total benefits/compensation per head.
Creating a certificate is easy.
Creating a certificate might be easy for someone with the proper skillset.
However creating an world-class organization that provides certificates as easily as LE does... definitely not.
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#185To everyone complaining about the $250K (see edit, it's actually 200K) per person in salary (which seems to be everyone at the moment), a few things to keep in mind: 1) That includes benefits 2) They are in Silicon Valley and have to compete with everyone else in Silicon Valley 3) Given what they have accomplished with such a small team, these are probably high caliber people. 4) In SV there is a good 25% premium you…
Complaining about that is insane. To put it in perspective, almost any Fortune 500 is paying $200k for a contract Level-2 helpdesk analyst.
What does it mean to analyze a helpdesk?
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#186To everyone complaining about the $250K (see edit, it's actually 200K) per person in salary (which seems to be everyone at the moment), a few things to keep in mind: 1) That includes benefits 2) They are in Silicon Valley and have to compete with everyone else in Silicon Valley 3) Given what they have accomplished with such a small team, these are probably high caliber people. 4) In SV there is a good 25% premium you…
I agree completely, especially regarding benefits. A lot of folks will look at a base pay rate and turn down the job because they will have $1000/month less "fun money" than if they take the job across the street. What they don't understand is the job across the street has shitty healthcare plans, little or no investments/stock options/pensions, less or less flexible paid leave, and so on.
I went back into government work specifically for the benefits, even though the pay was no more than I was already making at a private company. That company wasn't offering me any health insurance and I had to fight tooth and nail for any time off, paid or otherwise. At my current job, while it's not as mentally stimulating, I can retire at 50 years old with my sanity, full benefits, and retirement intact, and work for myself in my golden years without fear of losing health and life insurance.
Re: What It Costs to Run Let's Encrypt
#187To everyone complaining about the $250K (see edit, it's actually 200K) per person in salary (which seems to be everyone at the moment), a few things to keep in mind: 1) That includes benefits 2) They are in Silicon Valley and have to compete with everyone else in Silicon Valley 3) Given what they have accomplished with such a small team, these are probably high caliber people. 4) In SV there is a good 25% premium you…
If they provided an identical quality of service with 25 employees for $2m nobody would bat an eye. I'd say the fact that the team is so lean is justification for higher salaries in and of itself.
I think this is a better point. They seem to be incredibly capable for such a small team with such a large impact.
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#188Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think $200K/person is fine, but I do quibble with this: > They are in Silicon Valley and have to compete with everyone else in Silicon Valley Why? Why compete for talent in Silicon Valley when there are people all over the country who'd love to work on something like this? I can get why they might prefer not to do remote teams (it's a challenge), but there are cities like Seattle, Boston, Denver, Dallas, Kansas Cit…
As covered elsewhere, most of the team is remote. But they still get SV salaries because great people get those salaries no matter where they are.
that is ridiculous, do you have evidence to back that statement up?
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#189Earlier quoted context omitted.
Says who?
Says a Canadian who lives in the US who overgeneralizes. It's not entirely true, but its way closer to the truth than you'd admit.
I mean I am a Canadian who lives in Canada and I disagree. So that's why I don't get your argument? I know plenty of very skilled people here.
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#190GEEZ - Those Legal and Administrative costs are INSANE. Especially if a lot of their stuff is handled by Linux Foundation. What the heck? 12%+ of total spend to lawyers and admin, and this is not salary? What's going on here?